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Date: July 25th
PONCHO!!!!
 


Heeeeelllp!!! aww  I need a long distance online diagnostic. biggrin My John Deere STX 38 is surgin' and sometimes quittin'. If it sounds like it's gonna quit and I get the deck shut off quickly enough it usually picks back up and stays runnin'. confuse I checked the fuel filter...it's good. I checked the plug...it's good. Good spark too...when I tested it. rage.gif I'm no mechanic...small engine or otherwise disbelief and the JD dealer closes at noon on Saturday (the buggers) frustrated.gif Do ya think it could be the coil? How can I check that? If it is somethin' like that I gotta wait until Monday to get a part 'cause only JD carries JD parts around here. ohmygod.gifmad.gif disbelief The buggers! buggered.gif  So what do ya figure Poncho?....or anyone else in the know?

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imslow.gif Oh yeah...I checked the oil...good. Checked the air filter...good. And ya can see the linkage to the carb movin' in sync with the surge/pulse...if that means anything. confuse I wanna cut some grass dammit! evileye aww

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is your air filter clean?check the plug?any water in the fuel?i bet ol poncho can point you in the rite direction! these are just a few things that i allways check when my mower acts up.

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Water in the fuel is always a possibility or even crappy fuel.

Could be a coil issue but not the first place I'd look. Should check it though. You'll need a digital VOM. Since I don't see Ponchie here, there's an article he copied and posted which is good info. I also have other info on checking coils but this should keep ya busy for awhile.............

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/ignition-system-info-44185.html

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Thanx fellas! The air filter is good...and it's not likely the fuel itself 'cause I tried regular, mid grade and hi-test nd it's the same stuff that we run in everything from our vehicles to our other small engines without issues. I'll check out that article. Thanx again. aww

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Date: July 26th
 

Mine does the same thing to a certain extent......Engaging the mower deck takes a lot of power from the engine.......Make sure your belts are good and that your spindles on the deck are free and well greased....If a bearing on one of those spindles is tightening up, it will do that. Could be built up crap under the deck and around the spindles too.

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OK...I'll hafta get the young fella to get down there and grease for me aww I keep it cleaned out pretty good but it could use a greasin'. Thanx.

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Sounds lean. You may have to pull the carb bowl and see if the thing has little sediment particles in it.
Even with clean fuel and a good grade, todays gas leaves a layer of sediment and constricts the orifices and main jet so it runs leaner than it should.
Air cooled engines work that scenario harder so it's a possibility that you have to clean it out and get the air/fuel back up to snuff.

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Date: July 26th
 

 sounds like it is starving for fuel.. or if it has a govenor on the motor, that could be not letting the throttle advance enough, when the mower head is engaged,,

This is from someone that HATES to cut grass,,  I would personally use this as a excuse to go buy that new state of the art mower with operator included in the sale price,, biggrin



-- Edited by Bad Rat on Sunday 26th of July 2009 01:44:03 PM

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Well, I couldn't wait for my son to get offa work so I went out there, got down on the ground...looked like a turtle stuck on it's back...and got it all greased. I pulled the bowl offa the carb and it was cleaner than some of the glasses I've drank outta. hmm Since I was there I pulled the plug again and gave it a lil' scuffin' too. Fired up the ol' thing and it ran like a top for about 2 minutes then started with the surgin' and pulsin' just sittin' still. She completely dies after about a minute of that nonsense if I don't jam the throttle past "wide open" into choke. confuse If I didn't know better I'd say that someone screwed with the carb settin's. disbelief I didn't check the coil yet for a coupla reasons...#1 I'm humped over like a hound humpin' a football from gettin' down and back up...#2 I don't have a digital tester. hmm Gonna call my mechanic buddy to bring his tester and check 'er out for me.



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I didn't see the surging part in your post before....Usually that is that the carb is gunked up.....either with dirt or gas has sat in it too long and it has formed a varnish that plugs up passages. You may have to take it apart, clean it out with some solvent and blow out the passages....that usually works for me.

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The Deere is runnin' again! clap.gif  I rechecked everything, including the carb float and it all seemed great to me confuse Then it kinda dawned on me idea.gif the inline shut-off valve for the fuel! Sure enough, it wasn't lettin' enough through disbelief Switched that and cut the front yard...ran better than it ever did. Kinda embarrassin' ashamed.gif Now if I can beat the rain today I'll cut the backyard. aww



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well i'll be dang. thats allmost as bad as bad rat runnin out of gas!!hahaha. sounds like somethin i would do. well, its a little slow around here but its not borin!!

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geezer69 wrote:

well i'll be dang. thats allmost as bad as bad rat runnin out of gas!!hahaha. sounds like somethin i would do. well, its a little slow around here but its not borin!!


   I'll never live that one downbiggrin

 



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My lil' stunt puts me right in there with ya Rat buddy. disbelief What can ya do huh? Both of us went right past the simple and obvious and into the unknown zone. frustrated.giflaughing.gif

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i do it too fellers. i just dont tell it on myself. hahaha,maybe next time i will let you in on my brain fart!

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geezer69 wrote:

,maybe next time i will let you in on my brain fart!



would this be the begining of the term **** for brains?

 



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hahaha, it mite be bad rat. why not.it has to start somewhere.

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