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Missing tabs in GE panel


Same house as the windows........

Replacing a gas stove with an electric one.  Because that's what the cook prefers!

Anyway, GE main box, 100 amp.   There are two spaces left, cool, exactly enough for a 220 breaker.  Only when I went to put the breaker in, there are no tabs to hook the breaker to.  By tabs, I mean the bars in the middle from which the power comes.  Bars are there, but the tabs the breakers straddle are not.

WTF?????   Never saw such a thing in all the Square D's I've dealt with.   Found Square D a lot easy to work with period, but GE is what the house came with.

Here is a picture of another breaker pulled out.   You can sorta see the vertical tabs the breaker clips on.



Here is the open one.   Lighting sucked.   Using my phone since I can never remember to take the camera with me.



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thirdroc17 wrote:

Same house as the windows........

Replacing a gas stove with an electric one.  Because that's what the cook prefers!

Anyway, GE main box, 100 amp.   There are two spaces left, cool, exactly enough for a 220 breaker.  Only when I went to put the breaker in, there are no tabs to hook the breaker to.  By tabs, I mean the bars in the middle from which the power comes.  Bars are there, but the tabs the breakers straddle are not.

WTF?????   Never saw such a thing in all the Square D's I've dealt with.   Found Square D a lot easy to work with period, but GE is what the house came with.

Here is a picture of another breaker pulled out.   You can sorta see the vertical tabs the breaker clips on.



Here is the open one.   Lighting sucked.   Using my phone since I can never remember to take the camera with me.



I'm NOT a electrican by a long shot,, don't know squat bout tricity,, cept it can knock the pee waddin outta ya,,

Sounds like you have some electrical experience,, are the "Tabs" replacable or part of the panel itself?

It would be a big pain and Job to change over to a Sq D panel,, good luck with this one,, Personally I prefer aGAS stove over a Elec, myself,,, but mommas always win,,,, right??


 



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What does the currently installed double breaker run??? An electric stove pulls alot of current and the panel looks loaded up pretty good at this point.

There's a formula for this i'll run for ya but I gotta get to work. You'll need to make a list of what's what to determine if the panel will handle it. Sometimes running a sub-panel works well for what you're wanting to do.

Later, John

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Thanks, I found a solution. Not the best, but cheap, easy, and probably more common than you think. Doubled up the circuits on a couple of 110 circuits, freeing up 2 tabs. If there proves to be a problem, I'll deal with it later. They are just bedroom circuits though, not typically high draw lines so I should be ok. Truth be known, done it before in my last house, worked just fine. The worst that can happen is the breaker will trip, the circuits are still protected at their rated amperage's.

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Farwell, Michigan

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C-101SS


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Add my .02 here. Standard GE boxes are not the same as Square D - i.e. they use different breakers. HD and Lowes and probably your local hardware store probably have what you need. (of course just to confuse the issue, some GE's are dual purpose).

A double breaker feeding two 14ga cable is NOT heavy enough to handle a 30 amp stove circuit. You need a dedicated 30 amp breaker feeding from both 110v legs for your 220v along with a minimum of 10 ga wire to feed the stove

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I moved the existing 14 gauge circuit wires to other 15 amp breakers. The new 50 amp breaker (code on new installations now) is feeding the 50 amp receptacle and 50 amp plug via 8 gauge wire.

I've never used a wire of the incorrect size on a breaker or application.

I mentioned Square D as I've used them in the past and found them a lot easier to work with than the GE in this house. Before I went to buy the new breaker, I wrote down the breaker type numbers so as to be sure to get the proper breaker to fit the box I was unfamiliar with.

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Farwell, Michigan

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C-101SS


Kubota BX-2670 w/50" blower & 60" mower



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Bringing this up to date as well.

While tripped breakers weren't a problem, I changed out the 120v 15 amp breakers, with the kind that have two circuits in them, yet use one space. This put every wire on it's own circuit breaker as they trip individually.

Funny story. Last summer, the electric water heater came out, a fas fired, on demand water heater went in. LOVE IT! Saving a small fortune to pay for what cost a small fortune to do. Removing the electric tank did make room for a much needed water softner. Rust stains scrubbed away were back in force a week later. Now, no rust staining. Anyway, now I have an open 240 breaker...... LOL

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Farwell, Michigan

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C-101SS


Kubota BX-2670 w/50" blower & 60" mower

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