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Fiber glass 'rock tape - do you like it?


Just asking for an opinion. I'm  still "fussing" around with the house plus still looking for a new one in VA - so with that said, I'm cleaning up a crappy 'rock job the builder did 40 years ago in the garage. I had painted it ~10 years ago but never finished anything but the nail heads. Since it was a really poor installation job, I'm using the self stick fiberglass tape to bridge some nasty corner gaps since it's porous and you can force mud through it. I have an opinion (I tried it previously in another home years ago), but would like to hear from the pros on what they think about the 'glass tape as a normal use tape for all usesashamed.gifconfuse.gif

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The mesh tape is probably the best thing you could use in that situation,, .  but maybe insted of trying to force mud through the tape where you have the gaps,, fill the joint with mud first and then put the mesh tape over the mud, and then wipe off the excess mud,, let dry ,,then fill with the wider knife after it has dried and the mud shrunk  sufficiently, biggrin

Are the holes too big for the tape to cover with out overlapping the tape with another piece of tape? if so Then I would stick several pieces of tape together , enough to make a patch,, then lay it on a flat surface and apply some mud to the patch and then stick it to the wall,, [ are you totally confused yet?]smile and mud over that,,,,,,,,,,,,,

-- Edited by Bad Rat on Thursday 29th of April 2010 11:21:48 AM

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Bad Rat wrote:
[ are you totally confused yet?]smile


-- Edited by Bad Rat on Thursday 29th of April 2010 11:21:48 AM



Nah - I figured out what you were sayingshocked.gif. And yes, I did 'pre-fill' the gaps then knocked off any high spots, put the tape down, then forced the mud through for any left over lows. Actually it's working out pretty good - I just have to remember not to sand it down too much or the mesh shows. But since it's the garage, that's not a big problem eithercowboy.gif

 



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I agree with Rat, I've used it and I like it, however, as far the long term, I don't have a clue.  Remember that you can pre-fill some of those larger holes and gaps and then lightly sand and then put the tape over it.

Any pre-filling is always helpfull especially in remodels and redo's - - - - if you do pre-fill, use the straight mud fromthe box or bucket and let it dry before putting your tape on.

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We used the mesh tape for everything.. the tapers loved it,, no pre mudding the joints, just stick the tape on and go,, they even used it in their Banjos and Ames bazooka.s,, except they had some problems when they used the tools,, with cutting the mesh tape.. the blades had to be really sharp, especally on the bazookas,,

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Bad Rat wrote:
with cutting the mesh tape.. the blades had to be really sharp, especally on the bazookas,,

Yeah, I had that problem last year when I was helping the oldest son hang and finish his top floor.  I figured you could just hold down with your 4" putty knife and tear it off clean - - - - - WRONG - - - - what I ended up doing was to sharpen a cheap 4" putty knife like you would a carving knife and then it worked great.  Easy to do with a vice and a file thumbsup.gif

 



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Scissors??? That's what I'm using. I have several cheap pair and if the ones I'm using wont cut paper afterwards, in the trashshrug.gif

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i use that fiberglass tape on my seams only.i use paper on all my corners.if you have a gap in it you mite even double tape that corner.i have a hard time leavin enough mud on the fiber tape on butts and corners.i dont care for metal corners.if you put that paper on alot of times you'll only have a little touch up left to do.. i hate sandin that crap.

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i use that fiberglass tape on my seams only.i use paper on all my corners.if you have a gap in it you mite even double tape that corner.i have a hard time leavin enough mud on the fiber tape on butts and corners.i dont care for metal corners.if you put that paper on alot of times you'll only have a little touch up left to do.. i hate sandin that crap.



Yeah it don't lay down like the paper tape, and takes some fenessing to build up a fill , unless there is a deep recess on the board,, most 8" - 10"-12" knives develop a contour after extended use,,, to leave a little mud on the wall.

speaking of a sharpened 6" knife,,[they get extreamly Razor sharp from running along the paper on the sheetrock] we had a taper that was holding his 6" knife in his hand, with the blade up, and reached down to pick up a 5 gal bucket of mud, he hooked his little finger and the ring finger under the handle of the bucket,, picked it up and his fingers slipped off the handle of the bucket and jammed the blade of that knife into his nose,, split it wide open clear up to his lips,,even split his chin and lips open,, not a pretty site,,
he had been taping for probably 25 years too, but stuff happens ya know,,,

 



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OUCH - - - yes they do tend to get an edge if you use them a lot. 

Speaking of tools, most folks don't even know what a hock and a trowel is these days.

I didn't even carry a circle cutter on me when I was hanging - - - just a nail bag that had the nails and my tape in it and then a gizmo on the other side made from a U-bolt to hold my hammer and a small pouch that held my keyhole saw and knife.  Doesn't sound like much but it sure makes a difference when you are hanging by the square foot and toting those tools around all day long.

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OUCH - - - yes they do tend to get an edge if you use them a lot. 

Speaking of tools, most folks don't even know what a hock and a trowel is these days.

I didn't even carry a circle cutter on me when I was hanging - - - just a nail bag that had the nails and my tape in it and then a gizmo on the other side made from a U-bolt to hold my hammer and a small pouch that held my keyhole saw and knife.  Doesn't sound like much but it sure makes a difference when you are hanging by the square foot and toting those tools around all day long.



sure as hell does Amigo,, the ole bung hole is draggin at the end of a long day,,

I never used a C cutter either, found center of the hole, took my knife and plucked a little hole in the paper to hold my thumb , and twisted my arm and wrist around to the left as far as it would go , and eyeballed a 3 3/4 " light box hole,, if it fit fine  if not that was fine too,, thats what we had the tapers for,, eyeballed the edges of wall boxes with the blade on my plumb box makers ax andtook a top of the box measurement and added 31/4 " and kinda cut it out ,, but that ax did most of the workbiggrin

 damn I miss sheetrockin,, ya got to hell for lying the same as stealin don't ya?cry

 sure glad I turned in my tools when I did,, but after a while that desk and headaches wasn't much fun either



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