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F-f-f-f-f-f-flourescent Light !


Last year I bought and installed a new 4 tube flourescent fixture in our Kitchen and it worked fine for a year then yesterday morning it started popping and blinking and all but three bulbs quit working.

I was out of town all day yesterday so this morning I went to BFB and bought 4 new blubs for it and put them in.  They blinked a little at first but didn't seem to be giving as much light as it had before.  Turned it on after dinner and all the NEW bulbs were burnt out.

So whatcha think, Gang, get a new fixture, maybe???
Is there any kitchen fixture that any of you like better than the flourescent ones?


"Inquiring minds would like to know?"


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Probably the ballast is going.....Cheaper to buy another fixture.

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yep. it should have lasted longer than a year but thats the way it is these days.

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I wonder if another type of lighting would be just as good as the flourescent??

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I have found nothing that gives as much light.

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guess I'd better go get me a new fixture then.

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Went to all 3 places in BFB and BFC and they wanted $100 for a 4 lamp 48" fixture and I really didn't like the design of either one I found.

S000000000000000000

I'm gonna wait and see what Lowe's has in Palestine next week.

However, I do have light in the kitchen now because

"YOU MIGHT BE A REDNECK IF?"





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I had the  same problem.. likes been said  the ballast gets hot and go's out and burns out the bulbs,, that's the way they are designed I think,, either to sell more ballasts Bulbs or fixtures,, they got ya 3 ways,,

I have older 4 tube fluorescent fixtures that came out of a Burger King restaurant years ago,in my shop,, that still have the old type ballasts,, bulbs are constantly going out, and with 4 bulbs per fixture, X 18 = 72 bulbs,, gets pretty spendy and  dark out there sometimes,,  Bulbs just aren't as good as they use to be,, like everything else these days,, chinese products suck

I used some of those strip lights for my utility room

100$   damn,,, do you get a kiss along with that?
http://www.homedepot.com/Featured-Products-Lighting/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xhiZbo20/R-202022366/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

these use the hylogen bulbs,, puts out lots of light




-- Edited by Bad Rat on Friday 30th of April 2010 10:41:14 AM

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That is a way cool fixture but I don't have a junction box in the ceiling just romex hanging down.  Hmmmm, when we go to Lowe's (same thing) I'm gonna see what else they got.

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Mello Yello wrote:




That is a way cool fixture but I don't have a junction box in the ceiling just romex hanging down.  Hmmmm, when we go to Lowe's (same thing) I'm gonna see what else they got.





Well according to that pencil line, on the sheetrock , and the drywall screw holding the light socket up there is appairently a rafter there,, you could easly mount a J-box to that rafter, or use a cutin box,
  OR  here are some 4 tube with cover for 68 $

http://www.homedepot.com/Lighting-Fans-Fluorescent-Lighting/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xhiZare3/R-100192555/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

more

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Navigation?categoryID=502059&catalogId=10053&storeId=10051&langId=-1

 



-- Edited by Bad Rat on Friday 30th of April 2010 11:49:02 PM

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Yeah, that fits my budget much better.  Wonder if the T8's are any better than the other flourescent tubes?

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I've been thinking that maybe I might have caused that fixture to go bad so soon?

The fixture came with 4 - 32 W T8 lamps and about 4 months ago I replaced 2 burned out ones with the regular (old style) 40W and when it got to popping and flickering the other day, I put in 4 new 40W old style and it burned them all out that very same day.

You reckon that could have caused the ballast to go bad??

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I've been thinking that maybe I might have caused that fixture to go bad so soon?

The fixture came with 4 - 32 W T8 lamps and about 4 months ago I replaced 2 burned out ones with the regular (old style) 40W and when it got to popping and flickering the other day, I put in 4 new 40W old style and it burned them all out that very same day.

You reckon that could have caused the ballast to go bad??



don't know'' I guess its possible,, maybe too much heat  with the 40 watt, ?  you are adding another 32 watts between all 4 bulbs,, thats like having 5- 32 watt bulbs
the quality of stuff these days is questionable at best,, I always thought Bigger was BETTERbiggrin

 whats the difference with the T8 to the old style,  My shop lights are the old kind,,and rather hard to find,, [no telling how long they were in the B/king, and they have been in my shop for at least 15 years,,,  I never thought about there being a difference,,,,[  Go Green energy maybe???]

 We have one of those  halogen lights over the sink,, with 4 small bulbs,, and it seems like I am replacing one constantly,, I think its just because we buy the cheapest bulb possable..and since they go out so quick,, it ends up being the more expensive way,,

 



-- Edited by Bad Rat on Saturday 1st of May 2010 10:20:24 AM

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them floresent lights used to last a long time. but now they dont last that long.and yes folks ,its the ballast thats the problem. about the best kitchen or shop light there is though.

-- Edited by geezer69 on Saturday 1st of May 2010 04:49:34 PM

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I have many flourescents in my shop - but all are the 40 watt, which CAN use the 34 watt version, but not the other way or you already know what happens. When GE demolished a building a few years ago I bought a truckload of the commercial 4 tube units for $15 - they never burn tube out plus even light when it's cold in the garage. These will be left when we move - too big and too many other more interesting things to pack up.

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Yeah, Dave, I found that one out the hard way !

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Talking about ceiling fixtures - I had one start smoking (and stinking) this morning. It was a normal, porcelain incandescent light version. Replaced it with a new, formerly top of the line Leviton - now made in Peoples Republic of Chinacensored.gif.

Quality - not there any longer!!

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we gota find a way to get around buyin that crap somehow.i makin a effort to try and stay away from it. my dollar cant hurt um much but P!$$ on em.

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Went to Lowe's yesterday to pick up a new kitchen light fixture and asked the clerk if they had any that weren't made in China.  He said "No" and followed up by saying if I found one I'd be lucky.  So I contemplated for a few minutes found a fixture that the Wiffy liked and bought it.  While I was talking to the clerk, I asked him if regular 40W bulbs in a T8 fixture would fry the ballast and he said "Yes".  So hopefully if I don't screw up again this Asian Made one will last longer than a year.  Damn thing sure gives off a lot of good light.


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Went to Lowe's yesterday to pick up a new kitchen light fixture and asked the clerk if they had any that weren't made in China.  He said "No" and followed up by saying if I found one I'd be lucky.  So I contemplated for a few minutes found a fixture that the Wiffy liked and bought it.  While I was talking to the clerk, I asked him if regular 40W bulbs in a T8 fixture would fry the ballast and he said "Yes".  So hopefully if I don't screw up again this Asian Made one will last longer than a year.  Damn thing sure gives off a lot of good light.



I use a Sharpie to mark in plain sight on the fixture as to what watt tube it takes as the ol memory banks just ain't what they usta beomfg.gif.

A note - one of the big fixtures I was braggin' on the other day - fried a ballast, so off it went to that big metals dumpster at the landfillcrying.gif

Had screwy one today. The recessed light over the sink quit last night. Replaced the bulb - 3 times!!! - nada. Gotta be the socket, pulled the entire light box down, Nope, just fine. Gotta be the switch - nope. Broken wire? Continuity checked. Nope. Bright idea, checked the GFCI on the porch - aha, tripped. Did I ever say that this was a tract house, built by cheap labor? There are two separate circuits in that box. One is just a plug in receptacle, the other is the switch off a separate feed to the light. Oh well, another lesson in development tract housing.

 



-- Edited by Dave W on Saturday 8th of May 2010 11:42:25 AM

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In my wandering about the site, I came across this post and thought I might be able to contribute a bit of info, although you all probably already know it - mebbee so, mebbee not.

In a nutshell, T12, T8, and T5 fluorescent tubes are NOT interchangeable, even though they may have the same pin arrangement.  The electrical characteristics of each one are different, and they require ballasts of different designs.

If you go to "HowStuffWorks" website and search "fluorescent lights", there is a very good basic primer on just how the things work, and why the different types are - well, different.

Like I said, though, you probably already knew this. smile

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thanks rumbler. i sure didnt know that.i figgered if it would fit the fixture is was good to go.

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No, Rrrrrrr, I had to learn the hard way - - - 2 fixtures and 12 bulbs later nodisbelief

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