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Ceiling peak


I have a ceiling in the bedroom that comes to a point all the way across. I'm not sure what you call it. Like and upside down "V"

I noticed what looks like wall tape pealing off. I got a ladder and pulled most of it off and now I'm stuck with a small gap all the way across the ceiling at the point of the "V". Should I treat this like a crack in the wall using tape and joint compound?

If so, there is no way I'll be able to match the pattern. It's not a popcorn pattern but looks as though the worker used a brush of his choice to make it. Any suggestions there?

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Looks like you have pulled the joint tape and compound off, that wasnt applied very well to begin with. All you can do is repair it and try and match it with a brush again......Ir pull the whole ceiling down and start from scratch. Thats the trouble with textured finishes on walls and ceilings....hard to match when repaired

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Yep  Poncho is right again,, the guy that taped it origionally wiped out too much of the mud under the tape ,, and the moisture that builds up in a bathroom, caused the mud to finally come loose.
You simply need to mud and retape the joint, and after the mud has dried,, use the same mud to run a layer of mud over the top of the tape and smooth it out to hide the tape edges,  this is a kinda tricky operation , trying to get the peak of the ^ even and straight, and the edges tapered,, but you could just cover the tape with a layer of mud and after it has dried good [couple of days] use a piece of 150 grit drywall paper, on a sanding block to sand everything smooth,, there are blocks of sponge rubber with different grits , that would work good,  look in the paint dept of  Loews of Home depot,,

As for texture,, you probably have a brush finish,, kinda like plaster,, not hers to do  just use a thick [kinda like melted butter] and a long brissled brush  like a wallpaper brush.. and just go for it,,,

Altho your best bet would be to call a local drywall co and have a taper comeout and fix it,, taping drywall is easy if you have done it before,, in experanced?? you could end up with a big mess..

The finish in Bathrooms is usually a smooth finish , because of the moisture,, usually no texture at all,, only painted,

Good luck,,   PS,, the term to discribe a " Peaked Ceiling" is "Vaulted Ceiling"biggrin


-- Edited by Bad Rat on Saturday 6th of November 2010 07:59:36 AM

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Vaulted! I knew there would be a name for what I was describing.

Thanks for the help. I would like to try it myself but the ceiling is prett high. I think I measured 11 feet. Obviously my 6 foot ladder will not do the job. Can I just rent a bigger one from Lowes?

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Vaulted! I knew there would be a name for what I was describing.

Thanks for the help. I would like to try it myself but the ceiling is prett high. I think I measured 11 feet. Obviously my 6 foot ladder will not do the job. Can I just rent a bigger one from Lowes?






I just noticed that this in a bedroom,, much bigger area,, so moisture wasn't the cause,, whoever taped it origionally , took out too much mud from under the tape and it didn't stick very good,,  you have to leave some mud under the tape to make it stick,,EDITabove.gif


Probably could rent one from a rental place, like a 8' folding "A" type

taping that joint isn't as hard as you might think,,
first scrape off all the existing tape and mud, so its pretty much smooth, Go buy your self a mud pan and a 6" taping [putty] knife  you can find both items in the drywall section of Lowes or   H/Depot.  A  bucket of TAPING mud and small roll of drywall tape,  and some drywall sand paper,, or some of those sanding pads I mentioned before,  spread  the

 mud  on   each edge of the ^on the joint  ,  after you have the mud spread out,, on the ceiling,,,  the paper tape has as a line down  the center of it,, so you can easly crease it down the middle.. just fold it together and pull to make the crease,,

Then stick the tape to the mud, and smoothe it out with the knife,, on each side of the ^ and let it dry,,[careful that you don't cut through the peak of the tape with the edge of the knife,,,, if you have goobers on the tape,after it drys,,   sand those off so you have a smooth surface,, then get some mud on the blade of the knife and enough on each edge of the ^ to cover the tape, and smooth that out,, let it dry  and then sand it till its smooth and the tape isn't showing through the mud,, if so then just touch it up enough to get the tape covered,,

I really don't know what your texture looks like but if you could post a pic  maybe we could tell you how to match it   close anyway.. 

you will have alot of sanding dust ,, so to keep the wife off your azz  might be agood idea to cover the floor and stuff up,,

Have fun,, biggrin



-- Edited by Bad Rat on Saturday 6th of November 2010 07:41:30 PM

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Here are a few pictures of the ceiling pattern.

The first two are the original pattern.

Take a look at the third picture. Whoever owned the house before me, tried to fix a crack in the ceiling and looks like they tried to do a pattern but it's not the same. Doesn't look so good when the light hits it. That particular picture is from the kitchen area. You can see the original pattern towards the right side of the third picture.

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That texture is done with a long soft brissled wall paper brush,, the  brissles are probably 5-6" long and spred out from the center like a fan,, they made specal brushes for texturing like this,, and probably the only place you will find one will be a paint store or a place that sells wall paper , maybe take one of these pictures in with you and ask the person if knows where you could find one

the way its done is by dipping the brush in a thin mixture of mud and dabbing it on the wall and rotate each time to get the different effects

Its been a long time since I have seen any of that,, very time consuming and usually done in custom homes,, too bad the taper didn't take the same pride in his work,,

 They also make a ROLLER [like a paint roller] that has the pattern embrosed in it,, after looking at it again,, it looks more like it was done with the roller  the pattern is very consistant,,, again try a paint store

The place where they tried to patch it was done with a sponge by just dabbing it  and you are right it doesn't match at all

Look Here   http://www.all-wall.com/Categories/Drywall-Texture-Rollers

look under BRUSHES for the double fan brush on the bottom r/h side has awooden handle with 2 brushes

-- Edited by Bad Rat on Sunday 7th of November 2010 11:53:43 AM

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Great info! thanks

What would you do to correct the section that the previous owner fixed with the sponge?

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What would you do to correct the section that the previous owner fixed with the sponge?



I think you could probably sand that  texture down smooth,, [don't go too far tho and get into the sheetrock paper] then if you get one of those brushes,, simply go over that area,,
When you start to mix the texture mud,, mix some mud [same stuff you taped with] in a 5 Gal bucket, to the concensty of a milk shake,, no need to taste it tho,,, then just dip the brush in the mud enough to get the bottom of the brissles covered, and dab it on the wall untill it isn't making a good pattern . keep turning the brush to keep the pattern random..



-- Edited by Bad Rat on Sunday 7th of November 2010 08:00:40 PM

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Seems like we used to call that double flat brush a "Crows Foot"????????

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Mello Yello wrote:

Seems like we used to call that double flat brush a "Crows Foot"????????



WE use to use those yellow wallpaper paste brushes for texturing,, same brushes,, just that someone got the bright idea to put 2 of em together,, and they sure do make a nice texture pattern, 
Damn big Crow I'd say,, bust be one of dem TEXASS crows,,

Hows the back Today?? better I hope 

 



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Yup, those Texas Crows can stand flat-footed and rape a Turkey shocked.gif

Back is better but by no means well yet.  I'm going to try and get an appt to see my primary physician on Thurs because I have to take Sherry Belle to Palestine to a pain management doctor today.  So far I'm managing to get some sleep by taking her vicodin at night.  I would guess that I am about 80% from when it first happened last week and that's a blessing believe me.


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man mello, im glad to hear your gettin a bit of relief.maby your doc can get you to the rite place to get that hip fixed.i had a little taste of that crap a while back. didnt last but bout a week or so but that was plenty!im doin purdy dang good all in all. maby you can do the same. well, after the dr. visit. mine wudden that bad .....hahaha, its proly one of them 30 year punches!

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Mello Yello wrote:

Yup, those Texas Crows can stand flat-footed and rape a Turkey shocked.gif


Back is better but by no means well yet.  I'm going to try and get an appt to see my primary physician on Thurs because I have to take Sherry Belle to Palestine to a pain management doctor today.  So far I'm managing to get some sleep by taking her vicodin at night.  I would guess that I am about 80% from when it first happened last week and that's a blessing believe me.


HUGE Crows and midget turkeys,, HUMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!

taking that viocidin  stay away from the fudgecicles tho

 



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