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Lowest cost way to black out a window?


Hope this is the right group for this, but I didn't see one for window coverings.

We have a spare room and have been using it for a bird room for our pet birds.

We want to black out the window in there, which is about 42 wide and 62 tall and is framed in wood grain colored framing, so the first dawn doesnt get the birds going.
We work nights and usually get to sleep at 4 AM and the birds stay up until 10 PM usually, to be with us, so we want them to be able to sleep until about 11:30 AM in a dark room.

So something the birds cant easily chew up. ( one of them - a ****atiel - is a good little guy so we leave him out all the time, and he isn't destructive. )

We tried "room darkening" blinds but they don't.

I'm thinking maybe a sliding black panel that would cover the window and slide sideways in the day when we open it up for light for them, or a solid black drape, but don't know how darkening a drape could be, and the ****atiel might chew on that.

I asked on Craig's but some of these people sound nuts, they say they want $300 to do a panel for me over the window. Come on. And then there seems to be a lot of real deadbeat people on there too, it looks like how convicted felons and ripoff artists look for work sometimes.

Any ideas on this?

( wow, they're bleeping the name of a bird here? LOL )



-- Edited by Melissa2010B on Saturday 18th of December 2010 02:29:59 AM

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I made some frames of 1x2 furring and covered them with reflective film on the side that faced out, and with black 6mil plastic and some fabric that complimented the room on the inside.  They were just set into the window jamb, friction fit.  Worked marvelously, total blackout; and that was on a west facing window, so it caught all the afternoon sun - just when I was hitting the hay.

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Welcome to the forum......I have sunlight that comes in my living room and shines right on my TV screen.....I put those heavier wooden blinds over the window. They really block out the light.

I would think with the bird in the house, you would want something that prevents him from flying into the window anyways......

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If your windows are kind of recessed with a casing completely around them then Rrrrmm's suggestion of the frame that just sits inside the cased opening sure sounds logical to me.

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A  itty-Bitty black sleeping mask for the Birdy??  no.gif sleeping pills??no No?? well the framed cover with the reflective foil and black plastic sounds do-able altho The black plastic REALLY absorbs  heat, obviously the foil would reflect most of that heat,, but it could still get hot enough to harm the bird,,, 
I would think 300 $ for a curtain would be a rip off,,
might take a look at this    http://www.shiftshade.com/?gclid=CITPys2T9qUCFQQPbAody1dZpA
 Do birds naturally have a way of knowing what time it is? or do they rely on the light to wake them up? confuse

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Rrumbler wrote:

I made some frames of 1x2 furring and covered them with reflective film on the side that faced out, and with black 6mil plastic and some fabric that complimented the room on the inside.  They were just set into the window jamb, friction fit.  Worked marvelously, total blackout; and that was on a west facing window, so it caught all the afternoon sun - just when I was hitting the hay.






I need to open it though so they can have some sun coming in later in the day.

Either need a drape or panel that will slide to one side to let light in when we want it.

-- Edited by Melissa2010B on Saturday 18th of December 2010 09:30:19 PM

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Bad Rat wrote:

A  itty-Bitty black sleeping mask for the Birdy??  no.gif sleeping pills??no No?? well the framed cover with the reflective foil and black plastic sounds do-able altho The black plastic REALLY absorbs  heat, obviously the foil would reflect most of that heat,, but it could still get hot enough to harm the bird,,, 
I would think 300 $ for a curtain would be a rip off,,
might take a look at this    http://www.shiftshade.com/?gclid=CITPys2T9qUCFQQPbAody1dZpA
 Do birds naturally have a way of knowing what time it is? or do they rely on the light to wake them up? confuse

-- Edited by Bad Rat on Saturday 18th of December 2010 10:51:31 AM






They appear to wake with the light. In the summer they start making noise in there as early as about 6 AM. But they need 10-12 hours of sleep, and the fluorescent Vita-lights go off at 10 PM, so we need to keep it dark in there until they come on again around 10 AM, then I can open the shade for more light when I get up.

Little guys need their beauty rest. biggrin.gif

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sounds like you need a window box with boxed sides as well. so the curtin has a place to seal out the light.it could be a little wider than the window so it could seal out the light even better.i cant think of a real easy quick way to close the light out that can be opened easily.

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sounds like you need a window box with boxed sides as well. so the curtin has a place to seal out the light.it could be a little wider than the window so it could seal out the light even better.i cant think of a real easy quick way to close the light out that can be opened easily.






I'm thinking about a horizontally-sliding panel framed to fit against the window, it's just that so many people want so much money to do it for me.



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yeah, i know what you mean. its hard to get someone to do a lot of these little things for a good price.do you have any tools at all? we can figger out somethin easy and not too costly. what your thinkin about will work real good and not too hard to do.maby we can find some vinyl trim or somethin along that line and cut some simple panels to put in it.that stuff is purdy easy to work with and not too pricey. if your willin to give it a try we'll be here.heck. you could use most anything for panels.any color you want.as long as it keeps out the light..what birds do you have?

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geezer69 wrote:

yeah, i know what you mean. its hard to get someone to do a lot of these little things for a good price.do you have any tools at all? we can figger out somethin easy and not too costly. what your thinkin about will work real good and not too hard to do.maby we can find some vinyl trim or somethin along that line and cut some simple panels to put in it.that stuff is purdy easy to work with and not too pricey. if your willin to give it a try we'll be here.heck. you could use most anything for panels.any color you want.as long as it keeps out the light..what birds do you have?






Yeah, I guess I'm just getting old and lazy. LOL And a packrat, where I cant find half the stuff I have anymore. I have all kinds of tools and dont even know where they are. LOL

But this isnt rocket science. We just need some framing strips so a panel will slide left and right to cover and uncover the window.

We have 7 birds. 2 ****atiels ( they're gonna censor that word again, arent they? As if the name of a bird is obscene here? ), one lovebird, two canaries, a umbrella ****atoo named Oz and a Yellow Naped Amazon named Lucy.



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yeah !! computers  don't have any sinse of humor .. but we all know its C O C K atee or toobiggrin 

-- Edited by Bad Rat on Sunday 19th of December 2010 06:39:13 PM






In this case C O C K atiel, but I guess the board owners are so paranoid about all you good ol' boys on here possibly using fowl language ( hee hee! ) that they censor anything including that first 4 letters.



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It's not me that censors the language, its the board provider......There are ways around it, as you have seen

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It's not me that censors the language, its the board provider......There are ways around it, as you have seen







Yeah I knew. smile.gif

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In case you didn't check into the link I posted earlier,, this would probably be your best bet,, cheap; easy to use and apparently works, check this out
http://shiftshade.com//catalog/

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Bad Rat wrote:

In case you didn't check into the link I posted earlier,, this would probably be your best bet,, cheap; easy to use and apparently works, check this out
http://shiftshade.com//catalog/






We dont have that kind of physical access to the window, which is why we need a sliding panel that I can reach from the top.

Here's a photo so you can see what I mean:

window.jpg

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Bad Rat wrote:

In case you didn't check into the link I posted earlier,, this would probably be your best bet,, cheap; easy to use and apparently works, check this out
http://shiftshade.com//catalog/




 



We dont have that kind of physical access to the window, which is why we need a sliding panel that I can reach from the top.

Here's a photo so you can see what I mean:







window.jpg

Yep!!!  Now I see what ya mean, thats a head scracher for sure,,,confuse

 



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Side sliding panel that I can reach from above the cage.

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Two questions:

Would it be feasible to put it on the outside like a shutter or would the weather be a prob?

Secondly, is that an AK in your Avatar and, if so, what caliber?

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you mite be able to mount a storm window on that trim.paint it black first then you could paint it any color you want.youd have to open and close it from the top. maby even a little pully and line with a tie off.but you wouldnt be able to open the whole window.just less than half the window.

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Scan_Pic0001.jpghere are some brackets for a sliding type door ,, a lite weight  frame could be made with some 1x 2 firing strips and then covered with either a black fabric or a painted 1/8 " piece of paneling,  you might have to put a rail on the top and the bottom to keep the panel from flopping and hanging away from the wall at the bottom, allowing light in at the bottom,

the stepped brackets shown would place the panel close to the wall, but light would still come in around the sides,, unless you have some type of gasket to seal it off to the wall when closed,,like a rubber flap of some sort,,,

http://www.thefind.com/hardware/info-sliding-closet-door-rollers

These should be easy to find at any hardware store like ACE of even home depot,,,

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Mello Yello wrote:

Two questions:

Would it be feasible to put it on the outside like a shutter or would the weather be a prob?

Secondly, is that an AK in your Avatar and, if so, what caliber?






Then unless it was electric, I'd have to go outside to open and close it. biggrin.gif

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Bad Rat wrote:

Scan_Pic0001.jpghere are some brackets for a sliding type door ,, a lite weight  frame could be made with some 1x 2 firing strips and then covered with either a black fabric or a painted 1/8 " piece of paneling,  you might have to put a rail on the top and the bottom to keep the panel from flopping and hanging away from the wall at the bottom, allowing light in at the bottom,

the stepped brackets shown would place the panel close to the wall, but light would still come in around the sides,, unless you have some type of gasket to seal it off to the wall when closed,,like a rubber flap of some sort,,,

http://www.thefind.com/hardware/info-sliding-closet-door-rollers

These should be easy to find at any hardware store like ACE of even home depot,,,

-- Edited by Bad Rat on Monday 20th of December 2010 11:51:21 AM






Thanks. I'm talking to a guy from Craig's List who says he can mount horizontal furing strips above and below and attach a track to them for a sliding panel. Sounds good.



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Update on that. The guy sounded fine, exchanged a bunch of emails with me, then said $180 for materials & labor. ( seriously? ) I said I'd talk to my sister about it, but go sick with the chills last night and slept for about 14 hours. Then he emails me today and says; well I guess you dont want to do it, good luck getting your birds to sleep, bye!

What a... well you know.

So now I may just have to do this myself, I dunno.



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