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Front Porch incorrect slope !


I finally got my Carpenter friend and his helper over here this morning to straighten up my porch.  Even tho it was not level when we bought the place, it had progressively gotten worse and I couldn't put it on the market looking like this.

After much deliberation and conversation we decided to raise the low end up to match the highest end and kept our fingers crossed that the roofing or soffits wouldnt' start buckling.  They had two shop jacks under it and finally got it leveled and then cut spacers to fill in the void that was left.  The low end had to come up 5 3/4" (OUCH) and I was really worried but it went just as planned with no problems.

We also think that the problem was at the base of the posts and that they had sunk down thru the concrete because when they lifted it up the posts tried to raise up out of the concrete slab.

Looks pretty good, huh?  I need to wrap the 4x4 posts to cover up the correction they did but I can't find any full 1x4 or 1x6 lumber and I sure don't want to rip 16 &#%@$& 8' pieces of lumber.  ANY IDEAS????

 

 



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Looks good....Probably was sinking through the concrete. Probably poured the slab after the roof was built.Maybe build an apron right across the top to cover it

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Looks like Poncho hit that one right - around my area we put Sonotubes below the frost line (4') then put a post anchor that allows for some circulation under the post. This is similar to what I used for the open deck (the closed in porch - oops!! Did the Sonotubes - then didn't remember to buy the hardware).

 



-- Edited by Dave W on Saturday 25th of February 2012 11:07:58 AM

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Those would have been the way to go but I guess they figured the ground and the concrete poured around them was enuff to hold it.  What I'm gonna to is wrap them with one bys that will fit tight between the header and the slab and of course fasten them real good to the post.  That should look good and prevent any further problems.

The Wiffy's youngest son suggested that I get some 8' wooden fence boards and rip them to fit - - - - - they are very cheap also and will be painted.



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When I built a roof over our front porch,, that was just a small concrete slab porch , and I wanted the porch to run all along the front window, I used what iis called Pier blocks as foundation for the posts, ( out ground is solid clay and solid as hell) they have settled into the ground about a inch in the 30 years we have been here,  so I'm gonna call it good nuff,, I do want to( Read That My WIFE wants me To) build a different style fachia aroun the post,  I'll put it off as long as possable tho,,,biggrin



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Those would have been the way to go but I guess they figured the ground and the concrete poured around them was enuff to hold it.  What I'm gonna to is wrap them with one bys that will fit tight between the header and the slab and of course fasten them real good to the post.  That should look good and prevent any further problems.

The Wiffy's youngest son suggested that I get some 8' wooden fence boards and rip them to fit - - - - - they are very cheap also and will be painted.


 Those fence boards should work fne,, do they sell cedar fencing down yonder?

OH YEAH!!!! thats mesquite country ain't it?



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Looks like I'm gonna have to got towards Houston to find any 8 footers because none of the lumber yards or even Lowes carried there him in BFB (aka Leon Co.)



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When I redid the front porch, I used ordinary 1" by treated lumber to wrap the treated 4 bys. If I recall, 1x4 on the sides with 1x6 on the front and back. That way, the 3-1/2" actual width of 4x4's had two sides with flush to the two edges trim and two sides had an overlap/shadow line. I didn't have to rip anything to width and that treated wood was cheap. I waited several weeks for them to dry then painted the columns - and 6-8 years later, still have all their paint.



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get you some 8" flashin and wrap the top of them posts.put a little 1x6 around the bottom to the concrete them sell it and runnnnn.

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Too late, Mego, I just got back from Home Depot in Huntsville with 20 eight footers but they were only $3.25 each so not too bad.



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Pretty big job for an old phart but I got them wrapped yestitty and was going to paint them today but it's been misting and high humidity so I need to wait a day or so.  The ruff cedar was tuff to impossible to get all corners perfect so I'll have to rasp/plane or fill some before painting also.  I sure do like the 6" look better than the original 4".



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Much nicer with the bigger column look - mine were originally cedar 4x4s as well. A couple neighbors have copied what I did with my redo. You could probably have eliminated the second from the left if there was a decent support beam, and it would have opened the porch up some more.



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Sherry and I mentioned that but since we're trying to sell - - - - we're like the Saturday Night Hooker - - - "quick and easy" biggrin



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Looks great Meller.. I agree with the 6" look  , That cedar will never rot,,( like you really G,A, S, ) it is used alot up here in the NW.. fences . decks, shake roofs, altho its getting pretty expensive  just like everything else


EDIT  is it a illusion or is the right side distance from the concrete to the top of the post longer, like maybe the slab is lower on that side.. probablt the way I am looking at the picture,,,,



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looks dang good mego. not bad for an old poot !

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EDIT  is it a illusion or is the right side distance from the concrete to the top of the post longer, like maybe the slab is lower on that side.. probablt the way I am looking at the picture,,,,

 Sherry said the same thing as we were leaving the driveway yesterday but the tape measure says they are both the same.  Must be one of those "Octopus-tickle" thangs.



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The edge of the porch roof appears to be parallel in the picture with the siding as well as the main roof ridgeline - so, like playing with horse shoes and hand grenades - it's close enough.

What you are seeing is this:

"parallax error occurs when the line of sight or measure is not at right angles ( perpendicular ) to the objects being measured. Any distance between the object and the measuring reference ( for example a rule ) will cause a misreading. This error will increase as the distance between the object and the reference increases."

(borrowed from Answers.com)

If you fool around with cameras, you try to eliminate this if you can. You, in person, don't see it. Your brain makes the adjustment. In a picture, there are no three dimension, only two, so no way that those brain changes can be done

 
 
 





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Yeah Rat, what he said, I think

Dave, don'tcha think that another thing that causes it is the ridge row being gable to shed to hip (going from right to left)????



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Yeah Rat, what he said, I think

Dave, don'tcha think that another thing that causes it is the ridge row being gable to shed to hip (going from right to left)????


 Yep - that's what I said - (or something like that)



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where the hell is WT ( wild thing) when we need himbiggrin



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where the hell is WT ( wild thing) when we need himbiggrin


 Hahahaha, good nickname - - - no one is safe here and how come we haven't given Dave a nickname yet?  Maybe we could have a "nickname Dave contest" ?



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Mello Yello wrote:
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where the hell is WT ( wild thing) when we need himbiggrin


 Hahahaha, good nickname - - - no one is safe here and how come we haven't given Dave a nickname yet?  Maybe we could have a "nickname Dave contest" ?


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Dave W wrote:
Mello Yello wrote:
Bad Rat wrote:

where the hell is WT ( wild thing) when we need himbiggrin


 Hahahaha, good nickname - - - no one is safe here and how come we haven't given Dave a nickname yet?  Maybe we could have a "nickname Dave contest" ?


 Much of what I've been called by others in the past is not for mixed company


 This ain't mixed company,, we'z all one breed,"""""""""""" I think

BAGPIPE DAVE    ( IRELAND(, irish( bagpipe ?  get it huh huh huh????)or is thet the scottish that blow on  the bag?

 



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Bad Rat wrote:
Dave W wrote:
Mello Yello wrote:
Bad Rat wrote:

where the hell is WT ( wild thing) when we need himbiggrin


 Hahahaha, good nickname - - - no one is safe here and how come we haven't given Dave a nickname yet?  Maybe we could have a "nickname Dave contest" ?


 Much of what I've been called by others in the past is not for mixed company


 This ain't mixed company,, we'z all one breed,"""""""""""" I think

BAGPIPE DAVE    ( IRELAND(, irish( bagpipe ?  get it huh huh huh????)or is thet the scottish that blow on  the bag?

 


 

I don't think Uilleann Dave sounds quite rightdisbelief. That's the name of the Irish version and they are very different.



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biggrinDave W wrote:
Bad Rat wrote:
Dave W wrote:
Mello Yello wrote:
Bad Rat wrote:

where the hell is WT ( wild thing) when we need himbiggrin


 Hahahaha, good nickname - - - no one is safe here and how come we haven't given Dave a nickname yet?  Maybe we could have a "nickname Dave contest" ?


 Much of what I've been called by others in the past is not for mixed company


 This ain't mixed company,, we'z all one breed,"""""""""""" I think

BAGPIPE DAVE    ( IRELAND(, irish( bagpipe ?  get it huh huh huh????)or is thet the scottish that blow on  the bag?

 


 

I don't think Uilleann Dave sounds quite rightdisbelief. That's the name of the Irish version and they are very different.


 well lets just shorten it up some and make it VIVIAN DAVEbiggrin  nah that sounds funny,,just plain "OLE DAVE"



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Bad Rat wrote:
just plain "OLE DAVE"

 cool and we could even initial it with O.D. - - - hmmmmmm??? maybe not



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Right now - I just feels like OLD.

First blithering snow storm of the year and it's March 1st, 33 degrees makes it slush and I really don't feel like plowing it out - and just might not. There are advantages to having a 4x4 pick up



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Wow, "old" Dave, I've been watching that front blast thru the mid-West and your area and can't believe the weather we've been having.  Ah, but it's Texas and I know all too well that it ain't over yet.  Good Luck to Y'all and stay safe.



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no more winter for us meller. its done for this year.we aint hardly had a winter this year and thats the way i like it.

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I hope you're right, Mego, but this morning the Waco weatherman said that we will have some more cold temps before this is over.  I do know that things are starting to bud and bloom but that doesn't really mean anything cause I remember it snowing on Easter weekend in Southeast Texas back in the early 80s.  He also said that we were 16 degrees above the average normal highs.  I worked on the porch and some other things without a shirt on yestiddy because I was sweating so much.



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its over em. we mite get another frost but i dont think so. the bodark is buddin !

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I forgot about the beaudark - - - - you have always gone by that haven't you?

I'm not planting "ANYTHING" this year except some San Augustine sod up against the front of the house so let'er frost.  LOL

Gotta go clean up my paint brushes so I can start on the "green" posts.

L8tr Y'all,

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Got the cedar corners dressed down and painted the posts today.

WHOOPIE - - - this job is FINISHED !



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WOW!!! that looks professional,  nice job Amigo,, the price just went up 10 K

we had a dusting of the white stuff this morning, its been pretty cold the last few days, never got above 40 yesterday, about the same today,,

I'm sure ready for some sunshine

 

Tomorrow

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Thank ya !

My oldest son will be glad to hear that winter is still around up there cause he's going to Colorado sking with his son and another couple and their son on the 11th and the ski areas have been hurting for the white stuff.



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that does look good mego. the guys were rite. them bigger post look nice.

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