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New here and not sure where to put this... Didn't think it exactly fit in the climate control section but I guess it might. It is already getting hot in my house. The 110 degree Arizona summer is yet to come and I think I have heat coming in through my windows. Or should I say that I am losing my cool air through the windows. When the wind blows the windows howl. I don't know of this is a sign of bad seals in the windows or if I have other problems as well. What do you suggest? I am tight on cash and would like to solve the problems by myself if possible. I am mechanically inclined and can work a screwdriver if need be. I am not opposed to getting an energy audit if anyone thinks that'll help. Thanks in advance for your replies. Ben

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welcome to the forum....Up here in Canada, we get the opposite....We get the cold coming in through the windows....

It sure sounds like you need new windows or at least new seals. How old are they? Are they insulated?

I dont think you need to do an energy audit, seems to me you have identified the problem. If you are on a budget, take that money and replace the worst windows/seals, then do a couple at a time as you can afford it

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FIrst of all WELCOME !

It really depends on what type of window and instillation you have.  You could be loosing the cold air around the window itself or even between the window and the opening.  I didn't notice what area you are from but down here in Texas they use several types of insulation. 

Is there any way that you could post a pic of the inside and the outside of the window so we an see how they are installed?  That would be a great help in helping you.

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Are the windows single or double pane , (insulated) the older homes usually have the single pane type, but like poncho mentioned ,, the cool inside air is excaping through the bypass where the windows open and possably around the edges.

I realize that the energy effecent windows are rather expensive, but believe me with the cost of electricy these days , the savings with new windows would soon pay for them, I replaced all the windows in my home with E/F and it made a world of differance, $$$$$$$$,,

I lived in Phoenix for awhile, and know how hot it gets there,

For a cheap fix maybe put some heavy visqueen plastic around the windows to help seal them off,

You can trace where the leakage is with a smoking cigarette, of something that emits a safe form of smoke and  watch where it excapes,

These are all bandaids,, most likely the real fix is with E/F windows,,

 



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Rat is right on with those double pane insulated windows but there's something you might try before taking that costly step.

As I mentioned before, the design of the windows and the trim around them, both outside and inside are great places for loosing heating and cooling.  If possible just take off the trim and fill that space up with either spray foam insulation (a real PITA to work with) or get some fiberglass bats and pull chunks off and poke in the space with a screw driver or something equivalent.  You'll be surprised at how much space there is sometimes and how much good a little insulation in that space can do.

What you are trying to do with the insulation is stop the flow of air.  They also make an aluminum sheeting that you can tape over the outside of the windows but they look pretty fugly IMHO !



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them old wood single glass windows are proly the worst to loose heat and cool. if thats what you have they leak all the way around. its cheaper to change em out. take a pic of one from the outside and inside. lets see what your up aginst.

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They are double pane windows. The house was built in 2007 and the owner lived in it for a year or so before foreclosing. It then sat empty for about 2 years.

The upper windows are not able to be opened. Meaning, they are just panes of glass with no opening function to them. The lower windows are sliders. I will take some pictures as soon as I have a chance and remember to.

Thanks for all the replys so far...

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are you sure the windows are what the problem is? I know from experience, alot of the track homes get sheetrocked before the insulaters get them insulated, not saying yours is  . but I hung sheetrock in lots of houses and apts in Phoenix and Mesa, scotsdale  that wern't insulated, we went in to do our job. and if the insulaters hadn't done their jobs, to bad ,, they got rocked, we worked piece work, and had to get er done,

If you have a attic access hole,, take a peek up in the attic to see if its insulated,, checking the walls could be done by taking the cover off a electrical plug and look  along the side of the box to see if there is insulation in the walls,or a wire with a small hook on it along the side of a box will pull out some insulation if there is any in there,,, tapping on the exterior walls will give a hollow sound if there is no insulation too,

Being a NEW ( fairly New) should have had the windows sealed and caulked, but again ,, was yours custom built, or is it in a subdivision? (track home)

 

 



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With such a large temperature difference between indoor air and outdoor air I guess you could get one of those $20 hardware store digital thermometers with remote sensing. They use a tiny little fast-acting thermistor and you could check around the outside of your windows for air leaks. The sensor on my house thermostat is hardly 1/16" in diameter.

Your house has to be at a slight positive pressure with respect to the outside pressure, so don't run any exhaust fans while you're doing this.

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I've always thought that a couple of Harem Gals with ostrich plumes or palm branches beside the recliner would be a great alternative but the Wiffy said that would be too high maintenance - - - -WEEEELLLLLL that's not EXACTLY what she said but, I'm sure, Y'all get the idea.



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A big ole cuban cigar would work  of course you need to lite it,,,,nono shoooeee  Pugh



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Everytime I see the subject tile here I think?????

WOW, what a cool name for a Rock Band

BTW, Bencove, have you done anything further on those windows???

Inquiring minds would like to know

meller



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I had it backwards; run the exhaust fans and use the temp. sensor inside.

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Sorry for the long delay. Been busy. This low on the priority list and I'm trying to do some research first. Thanks for the suggestions.

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