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Electrical Wall Outlets ???


The fellow that inspected our house Friday found 5 wall outlets that (according to his tester) didn't have a ground.

I pulled all five out and 3 of them have 3 wire romex to them and a ground wire that is connected to the green screw on the recepticle.  However 2 of them in the upstairs bath only have 2 wire romex going to them but they have a green dot on the front.  When I googled the green dot outlets they said that it was Hospital approved but I don't know what that means.

I can't afford to have an electrician come in and fix something that isn't broken.  For him to run an extra ground wire in this house would be prohibitive for me.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions on my problem.

ALL OF THE OUTLETS WORK JUST FINE !!!!

I forgot to mention that:

The inspection report recommended that the 3 prong outlets be replaced with 2 prong outlets and no one seems to have any 2 prong outlets anymore - - - - CAN YOU STILL BUY THEM?



-- Edited by Mello Yello on Monday 7th of May 2012 03:29:01 PM

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The two in the upstairs bathroom need to have a ground and GFI installed.  Alternatively, you could just list them on the disclosures form, and hope the buyer understands the ramifications of the stuation.  I don't know about your local codes and stuff, but some jurisdictions require that any items like this be brought up to code before a sale can be closed, but in most areas, the disclosure form will help you avoid liability.

As to the other three, there may be a section of 2 wire  between them and the panel, and thus, they won't have a ground.  If they are just regular outlets in a bedroom or living area, it is not of major concern, as most things that will be plugged into them will be 2 wire devices without a ground, lamps for example or a power recliner chair.  Just check them for correct polarity, and label them "NO GROUND CONNECTED", and list them on the disclosures form.



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Thanks RRummm, that may be a good alternative here but getting a ground to the upstairs bathroom plugs may be a major problem.

Don't most hair dryers, clippers and etc only have 2 prong plugs??

It says in the report that all I need to do is replace them with a 2 prong outlet but that seems to be creating more problems because most people with a 3 pronged apparatus would have to put a 3 to 2 adapter in between and that seems even more incorrect.

I HATE MESSING WITH ELECTRICITY and am not comfortable but I need to do this myself if possible.

Thanks for the reply,

meller



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I think you can be creative in getting a ground for bathroom outlets without violating the NEC, like as in tapping onto cold water pipes, assuming your house has all metal pipes.
E-mailing your local permitting dept. may help clarify this.  Your tax dollars have already paid their salaries.

GFCIs can work without a ground but I think they are then supposed to be labelled "No Equipment Ground".

For the 3 wire outlets, run a lamp from the short slot (assuming your outlet isn't reversed) to the ground hole using clip leads from your local h/w store and if it lights you do have a ground.
You can use the same test to check for working GFCIs.

What a hassle.



-- Edited by WT on Monday 7th of May 2012 06:48:04 PM



-- Edited by WT on Monday 7th of May 2012 06:48:41 PM



-- Edited by WT on Monday 7th of May 2012 07:49:01 PM

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Loews has 2 pronged outlets

No, change store location.

 
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Thanks Amigo, I think that's what I'm going to do to satisfy the inspection report, even tho removing the 3 prongs that work fine and replacing them with 2 prong that only do the same thing seems a waste.

Seems weird to remove the ground wire and just push it back into the box.

Oh well, it' the easiest for me and that's what I need right now.

Thanks for all your comments Gang !

meller



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im thinkin that 2 prong plug lets you know that theres no ground and a device with 3 prongs wont plug in. them 2 prong plugs are kinda a safety device. its a cheap fix mego.thank goodness. you dont need a bunch of crap to do while gettin ready to move. i sure like the location of the new place mego !

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geezer69 wrote:

its a cheap fix mego.thank goodness. you dont need a bunch of crap to do while gettin ready to move.


 pretty much the bottom line there, Mego, "cheap quick and easy" is becoming my motto lately     (hmmmmmmm that reminds me of an old girlfriend)



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i knew her too mego ! hahaha

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