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Well, my contractor finally got over here and got 2 walls studded in so we're on our way to having a place to put my tools and junk.



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Thats gonna make a nice little work and storage space,, just guessin,, what is sixe is it? 10 X 12 or so?

what does the hoa have to say about you doing that? any objection?



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it's 12x12 and there will be a 4' sliding door in the middle of the front wall with about a half car length covered area still available

I have become good friends with the HOA sec/treas who lives right across the street and when I submitted my proposal idea to him he said just to go ahead and do it since it wasn't a new structure but just improvement on an existing one.

I plan on putting plywood on the inside walls with a pegboard wall on the back inside wall - - - - shouldn't be too hard to do if I can get my grandson or sons to help one weekend. As far as slopping on some paint, that can be done early and late before it gets too hot. I'll also have to run some power from the house to the shop and it has to be underground but my contractor told me just to get that all weather romex and run it under the deck. If I do that then I won't have but a short space to bury it and then come up beside the 4x6 and then inside. I know nothing about electricity and am about half scared of it so I'll get a Pro to do that for me.

didn't mean to ramble - - - - I'll post pics as it progresses

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I would think that if you hung board for umteen dozen years, a little plywood shouldn't be a problem for a OLD nailer like you,biggrin

 The Rumbler could probably give you some pointers on the electrical,, I think I would be a bit skiddish about burying romex even if it is allweather whatever,, that flexable plastic tubing should do the job,, but , I ain't got no electrical smarts at all,, other than it'll "fry yo azz"flame.gif



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Good Idea Amigo, when I get ready, I'll snap some pics of the area and a junction box on the outside of the house that services the AC unit.  Maybe Rrumbler can tell me if I can tie in there or not.  The reason I'm considering that is because it is very close to the shop area.



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gosh dangit. it burns my tookus to see you pay for work i could do . dangit.

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gosh dangit. it burns my tookus to see you pay for work i could do . dangit.


yeah Mego, I know but I wouldn't allow you to do it for free - - - believe it or not he has a 4 man crew going on it this morning so I guess someone wants to work even on the 4th of July - - - - good to see Americans working no matter what the situation.

once they get the siding on then it'll be time for the old man to go to work

right now I'm basting the ribs and watching them sweat



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Well, they didn't stay long but they ran out of two by fours, however, they did get the door opening framed in.  A couple of the hired hands couldn't understand the purpose of the 4' opening that will have a sliding handmade door.  When you are pretty much on you own you don't want to have to turn something sideways to get it in or out of the shop - - - comprende?????



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lookin goooood amigo !!!! just wondering,,,, do you have to pay parking to live there? noticed the parking meter,,, or do you set it out when company comes around????biggrin



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that's only for the Arkies should they decided to come camp out biggrinbiggrin

I saw that in a re-sale shop several years ago and just had to have it to set by the fiddy fi in the shop



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heck yeah you need that 4' door.

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They should be outa here and turn it over to me today sometime.



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set up a video camera, and do a video of you hanging sheetrock, I might learn somethin, just in case I ever need to hang some,no or better yetr tell my kid how to do it,, since he's a union carpenter ( sheetrocker)



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Ain't gonna be no gypsm board or drywall in this structure.  I'm gonna use a ruff cedar base board, 7/16" OSB for the walls, pegboard on one wall and corragated tin on the ceiling.  Then I'm gonna paint the interior high gloss white so I get plenty of light refelection.

Gotta go get some romex, boxes, plugs, switch, junction/breaker box and once I get that done I can start covering the inside up with tin and plywood and hang a HD flourscent fixture.



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Sorry to be so tardy chimin' in.  If where you want to tie in is a junction box and not the fused disconnect for the A/C, you should be able to pull another set of wires from the panel and take the feed on out to your shop from there.  If it is the disconnect, no.  And don't pull Romex through conduit; first, its not code legal and not heat rated for the job; use THHN instead and either use all one color (it might be a bit cheaper) and colored tape to mark each conductor, or use black, red, white and green; second, it's just plain hard pulling over any distance or around any bends.  Wish I was close enough to come help.



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Thanks Rrrum, let me kinda tell you what I doing so you'll get a better idea.

It is going to be very simple with a light switch, a flourscent fixture and 3 wall plugs - - - - all 110 and I'm using 12/2 with a ground for my romex - - - - I haven't decided it I will put a separate junction/breaker box inside the shop area yet.  There's a breaker panel just inside the back door that I'll probably use to service the shop area but I'll need a PRO to do the that connection once I get all the other stuff done.

PLEASE feel free to offer any and all ideas or suggestion you may have.

I know nothing about electricity and I'm scared to mess with it.

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What did you use for the siding?

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Hey Joe !

The siding on the 'new' shop/storage area is Hardi Board but some of the siding on the house is Masonite and that's mostly above the bottom two runs that was replaced after they had the house leveled !

Sad news on the Ace Hwd scene here - - - - there ain't one close by nodisbelief

have a great weekend

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UPDATE 7-22-12

By no means am I finished but at least my tools/stuff/junk is out of the weather and there's room underneath the covered area to pull into and work or unload the groceries.  Still got to paint the outside and maybe addd on enuff cover to handle the Jimmy when I get it home.

Thanks again to Y'all for all the ideas, comments and suggestions - - they are appreciated and needed by this "O.F." (F=fart)



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Can you believe that it took 2 gallons of latex interior white for the OSB inside and half of one wall was already painted pegboard plus a 4' door opening? confuse  It's still not covered very good, even after 3 coats no  Oh well, it is a shop and not a sitting room ! biggrinbiggrin



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hey mego, that looks dang good. I CAN SEE !!!us old poots need all the light we can get.hahahai put 7 gallons on a 12'x12' bed room in misquite a couple years ago. it was painted dark purple.i told the guy to buy good paint but he didnt. it cost twice the money to paint it. save a few bucks on paint and spend double on labor. i know you bought what you could find mego but that less costly paint(NOT CHEAP) will work you to death. hahahaha... there aint nothin cheap anymore.



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You're gettin' further along than I am, it's too danged hot in the garage to do anything but pass through goin' or comin'. I see you have the same workbench I do; I'd be s-o-o-l without my sawhorses, especially the folding ones, and those odd pieces of plywood that nobody can figure why I keep. I knew you could get that wiring in and working.

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 I knew you could get that wiring in and working.


 I'm proud of my ruff in but I could have never done the hard wiring.  When I watched my neighbor doing that, it was obvious just why I don't mess with that stuff.  I knew I was doing the right thing when I saw him put the white wires and bare copper together - - - - I was lost from that moment on so I just held the drop light and handed the tools to him.



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I see what you mean about the corragated metal ceiling reflecting the light, just like having a extra light fixture up there,,

Talking about saw horses ( fold up type) I bought some at Harbor Freight not long ago,, got 2 boxes,, thinking I was buying 2 horses, but it turned out there was 2 per box, pretty sturdy fold up horses,, steel channel legs and 1" wood tops,, I think they were on saleheadbang.gif for something like 10 -12 $ a box ( 2 horses) wouldn't want to try hanging any board off them tho,,no or any thing else for that matter,,biggrin



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wouldn't want to try hanging any board off them tho,,no or any thing else for that matter,,biggrin

 Watch your mouf Pilgrim - - - - them's fitin' werds nodisbelief



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--- wouldn't want to try hanging any board off them tho, ---


 I wouldn't either; they are supposed to be good for something like 1000 pounds or so, but I'd rather have a couple of walk ups for that task.



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 I wouldn't either; they are supposed to be good for something like 1000 pounds or so, but I'd rather have a couple of walk ups for that task.


 talkin bout those alum walkup horses, Years ago, in the early 60's. I was on a job at Texas Tech in Lubbock Tex, ( 3 -12 story dormatory buildings) the building was supported by concrete columns about 12 'feet apart,and 12" thick concrete cross walls, every 24'feet.. with all the duct work along each side next to the columns,, we were on about the 10 -12th floor building soffets down from the ceiling around the duct work,

we were going through and shooting hanger wires and channel , for the framing on the soffets. right by the window opening, Using walkup horses,,with nothing but clear sky for 120 + feet below us,

I set mine down and out of habit always checked the locking angle brace under the top,, but for some reason I didn't check it good enough, and when I started climbing up on the step ,, the damn thing folded up and out the window it went,, I had grabbed the piece of black iron that we had wired up, which I never did cause the pins holding the wires would pull out real easy,, but for some reason I did grab that bar,, and thats all that saved my  a s s

the horse fell all the way to the ground of course, and then a D-9 cat backed over it,,

I still have a couple of those horses, that were bought in the 70's and my son has been using them for at least 10 yrs,,  industruable except by D-9 's

that was the most dangerous job I ever worked on,, the brick layers ( bunch of illegals from south of the border) would see how close they could come to someone walking out of the blg with a brick,, Guess they got pissed cause we were flipping coreboard screws at them in their lime mix vat,,,,evileye



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I've still got my alum step-walk or should I say my son is keeping it for me biggrin

 

My step-walk story is not as breath taking as Rat's but I've got one. 

My regular drywall partner took a vacation and went back to Seatle for some R&R and he left all of his tools with me so I could get a "grunt" to help me until he got back.  Well, we had a lid to hang on the first floor that had a 14' ceiling so I put the extension legs on the ASW and, since we only had one set of extension legs my helper and I were both standing on it.  We were in the process of hanging some 5/8th firecoat rock when the &^#&$&^$# thing collapsed in the middle and when the dust cleared there was a pile of us, drywall and what was left of the ASW.  If we'd known it was coming it would have killed us.  biggrin



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Well Gang, I finally found that "Round Tuit" that I had misplaced and decided to work on getting the header installed and the track mounted for the sliding door. It is lighter hardware than I originally intended to use but I think it will work just fine. There's no way I can make it burgler or vandal proof but maybe this will make it harder for them if they should decide to mess with my stuff sometime. Don't think we will ever have that problem but you never know do you???

I was using some old lumber and had to clamp it straight so I could put the screws in from the back side. When you have to do "everything" by yourself, you get awfully creative.

This should work just fine with a large plywood door and some criss-cross bracing to keep it from warping too much. I will probably stay open a lot more than closed anyhow.





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Woo Hoo - got the door hung with only a couple of problems.
1. Having to struggle with this by myself, I could only get the rollers on each end to go in the track properly but it works just great and can be opened and closed with one finger. When I can get someone to help me, I'll remove the 2 rollers that aren't in the track and fix them but I can't hold a screw driver from the inside of the shop and nut driver from the outside at the same time. hahahaha Will be a quick and easy fix however.
2. The slab and original structure wasn't level or square so "WE" had to fudge as we went along and there wasn't much I could do about the bottom of the door having to have a gap in order to fit. Otherwise I would have had to run the door uphill on the track and I knew I didn't want that so maybe I can find a sweep of some sorts that will work on the bottom of the door.

I just about stretched my 71 year old limits with this project but I did manage to "Git'er Done"

I'm ready for the Jimmy now.





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Looks good Amigo,,, as for a sweep for the bottom gap, you are so worried about,, maybe a brush type sweep like they use on trucks and rv's for water spray control,, like a broom kinda, ( I know you have seen them on trucks)

at least it would follow the floor and keep out the large animals and small kids.

http://www.industrialbrush.com/ap_shield.html

click on strips on the left column



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NnoT worried about it at all, Amigo.

However, the creepy crawlers would bother me

more than large animals or rug rats.



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