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Tiller/Cultivator Question


I've been working on the tiller this morning and so far I have

1.replaced the fuel and prime bulb lines

2.pumped as much mechanic in a bottle as I could with my bulb syringe and some tubing

3.and also blew thru the lines several times between applications of MIAB but now it's full and I'm letting it sit over night.

However, I do have a question about the primer bulb - - - it only has one line running from it to the carb and that was the way it was when I took it apart yesterday - - - if you will notice in the picture below, the primer bulb "B" has only one line coming from it and the other end attaches to point "B" on the top of the carb - - the fuel line "A" comes from the bottom of the tank to the bottom of the carb at point "A"

All the primer bulbs that I have seen before (not that many either) have had 2 lines coming from them - - one from the fuel and the other from the carb - - - kinda like a squeeze buld in an outboard fuel line so I'm wondering if something is missing possibly??

 



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that seem correct to me( but what the hell do I know? see below) the bulb primes the carb since it doesn't have a pump, then the unused fuel is returned to the tank via line "A"  or maybe switch the lines and see if that helps,,,, one er the other,, has to work ya would think<<

 

I am having the same problem with the Weed whacker.except MORE lines(.so MAYBE we can combine the answers,,,)here's MY problem) the lines(2) one smaller in size)were rotted off, the bulb , tank , and carb all have 2 places for lines, the carb has one line at the top and one at the bottom,, just like yours,,so I assumed that 1line ( the largest size) went from the tank to the primer bulb that is suction, and from the other bulb fitting up to the bottom inlet of the carb ( to put gas directly into the piston) and then the other line (smaller) went from the top of the carb back to the tank which is ABOVE the carb,, for a return line for unused gas while idleing,, ?????????????  does this sound right?? probably not

 

I tried down loadning a pdf file for the W/R but for some reason my puter wont open PDF files..( whole nother problem)



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Suction was the only solution that I could come up with by having one line.

Unless someone has messed with this prior to me getting my grubby little paws on it, the lines that I took off would only fit one way - - - - there's no way you could switch them because the prime bulb line would have been too short.

I'm gonna let it soak all night long and then try and crank it in the morning with new lines hooked A to A and B to B and see what happens.  It would run for a second that way but wouldn't keep running so hopefully the varnish in the carb was the problem and I'll be good to go munyawna . 

I do remember my Weedeater having a large and a small line but this tiller doesn't.



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With two one-way valves I guess you could have a single line to the primer; the low pressure fuel gets sucked into the bulb through one valve from the fuel source and high pressure fuel gets forced out of the bulb through the other valve to the carb.



-- Edited by WT on Wednesday 25th of July 2012 03:01:02 PM

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The primer bulb draws it's gas directly from the tank through a check valve in the housing in the tank and sends it to the carb, and straight into the airstream downstrean of the throttle plate; the carb draws it's gas from the tank through the other line and into the bowl where it goes through the normal atomization and such --- I think.



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Well Boyz, I got it cranked "FINALLY" - -er uh that is I HAD IT CRANKED but when I went to idle it quit on me so now I've got to try different settings on the air screw. This model and design is not friendly to turning the adjusting screws because I can't even get my tiniest screw driver in the slot so I'm having to pull the tank set the screw and then put the tank back on a try it again. HOWEVER, I do seem to be getting closer and I know that the MORE FRESH FUEL I run thru it the better. The fresh gas also has fresh 2cycle oil and a little of that MIAB in it so, if my wrist doesn't give out then it should be back running sometime this morning or this evening for sure.

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OK, I lubed the throttle cable and greased the tiller blades and shaft, put the tank back on and NOW IT WON'T STAY RUNNING AT ALL - - - the throttle cable is sure acting sluggish and I'm fed up with it so it's going back to my son's this evening unless he wants to drop by and help me try one more time.

This morning kinda reminded me of the joke about the little boy that traded the lawn mower to the preacher for a bicycle:

Preacher: "this lawn mower won't crank no matter how hard I try"

Little Boy: "you've got to cuss at it, preacher"

Preacher: "you don't understand, my son, I'm a man of God and I don't cuss!"

Little Boy: "just yank on that starter rope a few more times and it'll come back to ya"

 

Have a decent day, Y'all



-- Edited by Mello Yello on Thursday 26th of July 2012 08:41:59 AM

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I  had to mess with my little mickeymouse tiller with adjustments also,, they are really touchy, but lucked out and it stayed running,, at least long enough to get the garden tilled

I fiddled around with my ( NOT HUNGRY AT THIS TIME)weed eater and found out the line that feeds the carb was kinked, but didn't care to mess with it , so if I don't throw the friggin thing in the garbage can, I'll try again,, maybe Cooper can figure it outheadbang.gif



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Yeah, I may tweek on it later but doubtful - - - - when I weed eater started acting up after 5 years I chunked it and got me a new one for less than a hunnert and it's running great so far.  It has the new string pieces instead of the spool and I sure do like that feature a lot more.



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Tried cutting a piece of ply wood with it yet?  the ad for those string thingies shows em cutting through a piece of plywood,, of course the plywood was paper thin..  but really I think they work alot better, at least it looks like they do

I always have orange pieces of line scattered everywhere. but try to get them up in the grass catcher bag when I mow,,,

 

Got a huge crop of maters coming on this year.  should have pruned them some cause now they are bushey as hell.. can't see if theres any maters there or not..

is it ever too late to prune some of those sucker limbs off???



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Pruning this late might be dangerous but if you didn't get too carried away it might be ok

I bought some vine ripened maters at Wallyworld yesterday and they are the sweetest that

I've had in a long long time.



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i cant find ca decent mater no where. dangit.

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I was late getting them planted this year,, cause it wouldn't stop raining long enough.

all those hothouse maters in the stores are like red baseballs. all the same size, hard as Tobys wee wee and taste,,   uah uah.. well actually there is no taste,, blah,, never seen a ray of sunlight,,, no

 

Think I'll pass on the pruning, biggrin



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I'm going back for some more of these that I got the other day - - - yum yum yum



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they must have come from some place local ,, I havn't been able to find any vine rippened maters in a store anywhere ,, unless its a farmers market,,  its still too early in the season up here for vine ripened maters ,  there are farms all around here where we go get peaches, ( pick em right off the tree) pears, all kinds of produce,,  especally strawberrys, that berry season is over now,, nothin better than a real vine ripe mater,, especally for salsa,,,,,



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Bad Rat wrote:

there are farms all around here where we go get peaches, When we lived in the Hill Country we always bought fresh Hill Country Peaches from the various stands and I would put them in the trunk or bed of the PU, I wouldn't allow them inside the car because I would end up smelling them and eating half a bushel before we got home nothin better than a real vine ripe mater,, especally for salsa,,,,, Now you've gone and done it - - - I'm getting cleaned up and headed to the store for some Salsa fixin's


 



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Let the FUN and the MUNCHIN' begin



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You need a couple more dozen jallapinnres to go in that salsa, roasted of course,,

nice lookin maters tho

I have a good stand of celantro ready to pick



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Sherry's 2 sons and our favorite girlfriend came up yesterday for the day and we celebrated her youngest son's BD a month late because he and his GF were in China visiting her family.  So I had made several batches of Salsa and we ate some here and I sent the rest home with them along with a bucket of Meyer Lemons and some fig preserves.

While they were here the youngest son, Mike, helped me work on the tiller and by the time we finally decided to give up, it was running as good as it has been since I started on it a couple of days ago.  He could keep it running with one hand on the prime bulb and one under the carb on the throttle.  There is a throttle spring that definitely needs replacing and it probably is gonna need a kit or a new carb before it runs well enuff to do any work with.  My youngest son has a BIG reartine tiller that you have to haul with a trailor and I may go get it today and see if I can finish putting down this extra sod that I bought too much of.  However, I did get the main part at the front porch finished and that was my biggest concern.



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The sod has a litle transplant shock but will look good in a few days of watering and new ground.

Ended up with 13 extra pieces so I'll put that in some vacant areas and mayb around the area of

the stumps of the 3 pissy pear trees I'm gonna cut down.



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