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Rain Gutters and down spout "delima"


I have never been a fan or user of gutters and down spouts on a house but, unfortunately, the house we bought has them in front and back.

They are just the regular old style gutters and down spouts that get clogged with leaves, pine needles and debris and have to be cleaned out about once a month so far.  Besides being kinda dangerous for an old man to be on a ladder it is pretty difficult to do, especially the down spouts.  This also becomes a nesting and breeding ground for these &$@$# Argentine Black Ants that we are infested with. (I always called them crazy ants)

QUESTION: does anyone have any knowledge or experience with the "NEW" no-clog gutters that are flooding the market these days?  I have googled several products and can't find a "trouble free" comment anywhere on the internet.  There are also after market covers that I could put on my existing gutters but they would still cause problems and eventually have to be cleaned out and maintained.

Am I looking for something that doesn't exist in trying to find a maintenance free non-clogging gutter or is there one out there that any of Y'all know about????

Thanks as always,

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I added brackets to replace the sagging gutter spikes and put 3' long rigid screens on mine; IIRC, with setup and takedown times, etc., it took me one hour per foot of gutter. I made little copper wire loops to secure the screens.

Or you could cut down some of the nearer, higher, trees.

It seems all of these hi-tech gutters look good on paper but somehow have shortcomings that are not foreseeable until after you install them.

You do need to route the rainwater away from the house.

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Well up here in the great wetlands of the Pacific Northwest,,Rain  guttrers are a MUST have item,, otherwise the homeowner would have to deal with all kinds of water damage, dryrot, foundation cracking,and settlement, ETC

all building lots have water drainage systems installed when the lots are prepped for construction,, with underground piped going to the streets . and into larger drainage systems,, IT RAINS UP HER FOLKS    

This is the portland location,, but I, sure thet have a texas location                                                                                                                                  

 

http://www.guttersportland.com/?s_kwcid=TC|11350|vinyl%20rain%20gutters||S|b|16356137225&gclid=CIWw6MX-6bECFSMbQgodWiAA5Q

 



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I'm in one of the green areas on this map

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=rainfall+us+map&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&sa=X&rls=en&biw=1093&bih=741&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=X7Z3RP4iDUnamM:&imgrefurl=http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/precip.html&docid=JdaothhNalv-dM&imgurl=http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/pcpn/us_precip.gif&w=959&h=720&ei=pdMrUK62NMP00gHg94CIBQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=123&vpy=146&dur=676&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=159&ty=89&sig=102793154617015424895&page=1&tbnh=128&tbnw=170&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:75

There are also US maps for termite infestation and it might pretty much look like this map.

BTW, how do I make links clickable on this forum?  confuse

This time I'll cut-and-paste the way to do it and save it on my desktop.  I should have done that when you guys first showed me how.  TIA.



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-- Edited by WT on Wednesday 15th of August 2012 12:00:33 PM

 

made link clickable



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I added brackets to replace the sagging gutter spikes and put 3' long rigid screens on mine; IIRC, with setup and takedown times, etc., it took me one hour per foot of gutter. I made little copper wire loops to secure the screens.
Well that's a no no for me - I'm getting old enuff that I can't do that kind of work anymore
Or you could cut down some of the nearer, higher, trees.
That would be a option on the Oak trees that are on our property but there's no way I could cut down the VERY TALL pines that are on the wooded lot next to us.
It seems all of these hi-tech gutters look good on paper but somehow have shortcomings that are not foreseeable until after you install them.
That's exactly what I found when browsing the net - - - seems like they just haven't perfected it yet but are getting close.
You do need to route the rainwater away from the house.

Yes indeed and that's probably one of the reasons that the house had to be releveled a couple of years ago - - - - that's also probably when they put the gutters on.  We have a lot of gable roof being that it's a 2 story with a continous slope.


 I guess I'm hoping for someone to post a miracle fix that doesn't require any up keep - - but I'm not holding my breath.  By the looks of the front ditch there has been a lot of water go thru this subdivision at some time or another.  no



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Remember Dick and DeeDee? Dick fell off a roof in his 60s and died, IIRC.
Myself, I finally got nervous enough to buy a harness and lanyard from Grainger so I can strap myself to the ladder or the tree. $100, total.

And the other day I pulled on a vine and a branch came out of nowhere, knocked my glasses into the tall grass and scratched my cornea, so it was off to the ER for me.
While I was there they had a GOMER (Get Out of My Emergency Room, or Grand Old Man of the Emergency Room) so Security had to escort that nutcase off the premises. I had read about these people but you really have to see one in person to fully appreciate the problems they cause.
Now I wear googles for just about everything.

I suppose someday I'll think these are the good old days - and maybe they are. . .

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I suppose someday I'll think these are the good old days - and maybe they are. . .


 You will have to be the judge of that as time goes by !



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Goggles, not Googles. Man, I am losing it. . .:D

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Goggles, not Googles. Man, I am losing it. . .:D


 Welcome to our deGeneration biggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin



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And there is only one exit door. . .no



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but you do get a "LIFE TIME" membership yanno???



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Yeah, we all get a lifetime guarantee. . .and the cash value of my guarantee gets less each year. But that is true of everyone.


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nope mego, there aint magic gutters. their all a pita and gota be cleaned. there is a new downspout. its a chain made of little bell shapes. i guess it works ok. still need a splash block though. i need gutters on this shack but i forgot how i got up there. hahaha

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DSCN3789.JPGDSCN3814.JPGDSCN3815.JPGDSCN3816.JPGDSCN3817.JPGWell I guess the first question on how bad you need gutters is,,,, How much does it rain there? 1" 2" 3" or a frog choaker now and then.. how wide are the eves on your house? up here the common eve width is 24" keeps the water the gutters don't catch away from the foundation,

But I know you don't get even close to the rainfall that we do,, but any rainfall should be kept away from the foundation, We have the simple cheape gutters like you get from Loews home depot etc,, except these are the continous one piece gutter that is made on site,,, what leaves or other crap that gets in the gutters is easly moved along from the ground with a piece of metal bent into a loop attached to a long stick( in this case a push broom handle) then if the gutter gets plugged with leaves or whatever a simple nudge with the hook gets em moving towards the down spout again, and end up in the street for the street sweeper to take care of ..

pictures to follow,, only other thing I can add would be a grarden hose and a demo no

 


 



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I wound up putting the screens on our gutters in the mountains, what with the three varieties of pines, foothill oaks and various deciduous trees around the place, and a fairly good amount of wind to keep piling stuff on the roof.  The screens kept the schmutz out of the gutters but the pine needles would get stuck in the screens and cause a pileup of junk behind them.  I made a rig to attach to my blower out of some 2-1/2" pvc and an elbow, and would blow the junk off the roof and gutters about once a month; but I still had to get up on a ladder to pick the pine needles out of the screens.



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http://store.irobot.com/product/index.jsp?productId=13081876&cp=2878870&sr=1

 

I came across this today.  A tad expensive, but sure looks to do the job in dandy fashion.



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ouch, that is a little pricey for sure

funny you should post here because Home Depot had their Werner 16' extension ladders on for $75 and I got me one today.  I can do the gutter on the back of the house with my 6' folding ladder but I was really pushing the envelope on the front gutter with it.  Used the new extension ladder on the front gutter this evening and it works like a dream.  Now I think I'm gonna put a piece of screen over the down spout holes so they don't get all clogged with leaves.

I had to take my leaf blower apart and fix it yesterday.  The lock nut had come off of the bottom of the blower and it was rubbing against the squirrel cage housing.  I couldn't get a nut on the threads because they were boggered too much so I drilled a hole below the fan and put in a pin (aka finishing nail bent over - Red Green Style)



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