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If it will hold the tile mortar then it should hold a few coats of latex ?????

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Unless Rat or Mego has another opinion, I think it would be fine to use - - - - especially in the closet - - - to me drywall is drywall once it's nailed up - - - might take an extra coat of paint to cover would be all


 That's kinda what I thought as well. Paint and over my taping - hides lots of 'sins'. Thanks


 If the wall in question is exposed to ANY kind of moisture,, even under tile, I would definately use moisture proof board, ( green paper and brown gypsum) unless they make it different these days,

Water will eventually desolve regular drywall, and start crumbling,,

But water resistant board will work any where else also,, makes no differance , the board don't need to know it is in a closet and not under tile ,, tapes and finishes just like regular board,,,,,



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Well that's settled - now all I have to do is wander down to my big box store and pick up a piece - probably tomorrow. I got the tub set in place yesterday late afternoon but have to pull it bck out and trim my new sub floor a bit. I made a WAG and miscalculated by a half inch of clearing the side drain tailpiece - and with that setup, it has to be right. The manufacturer's instructions say that once the tub is in and level, you need to install some shims on the wall side for stabilizing. Since this is supposed to be a remodel tub, howinhel did they expect that to happen without doing what I did - pull out a wall? Not any big deal, but dammmmm - puttin a 60" long tub in a 60-1/2" hole is close - especially when that hole isn't very straight, plumb or level - and expect that tub to be moved several times to do that leveling. Oh well, it will get done and needs to be completed this week - gotta get to my '31 and figure out what clunks in the engine.

Sorry about the babble, but it soothes my patience (or lack of)



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yep, what the rat said !

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I responded ---- but must have said something wrong because it's not here!!

Need to pull the tub back out - miscalculated (a WAG is how I did it) the drain down spout by a half inch. Not a big deal as it isn't fastened down yet, just a PITA in a small bathroom.

I'll pick up the drywall tomorrow when it isn't, hopefully, raining/snowing/sleeting or whatever that crud coming from the sky has shut off.



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Dave...about your post...I keep getting messages that I need to approve a post because of spam content....They are always yours....I dont see any spam in them, yet that is what they come through as. This has been happening for a few months now.....I am trying to investigate this more, so please bear with me

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Looked at your post and you put that smiley at the end.........I think when you use those, they also attach a web address of their own........this is what your last line looks like when I opened it

Sorry about the babble, but it soothes my patience (or lack of) [ url=http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons.php][ /url]





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AH HA - - - don't be fooled by a smiling face, eh???

Dave, that WAG notation sounds like me and Red Green.
"Cut that sucker off twice and it's still too short"

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Looked at your post and you put that smiley at the end.........I think when you use those, they also attach a web address of their own........this is what your last line looks like when I opened it

Sorry about the babble, but it soothes my patience (or lack of)

 

 





-- Edited by poncho62 on Sunday 24th of February 2013 09:41:08 AM


 OK - I'll quit using them here. They do work elsewhere, but not a big deal to curb my enthusiasmevileyeevileye



-- Edited by Dave W on Sunday 24th of February 2013 10:32:32 AM

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And I always thought SPAM was something to eat,,,,,

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And I always thought SPAM was something to eat,,,,,


 My Mother did and so does Sherry Belle but I'd rather eat dog food than Spam no



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And I always thought SPAM was something to eat,,,,,


 My Mother did and so does Sherry Belle but I'd rather eat dog food than Spam no


 Can't be much wrong with dog food. My wife showed me a can of what she feeds our pooch and it says on the label that it was kosher and OK for Passover. That means either Jews can eat it --- or else there are Jewish dogs that celebrate holidays.

I like Spam - about once a year. Fried crispy on the outside, a piece of rat trap cheese melted over it, some spicy mustard liberally spread on the stuff and in a sandwich. It takes the other 364 days to clear my blood system of the fat and salt



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Damn talk about HiJAk,, from bathtubs to dogfood and spam,,, what a change,,,

biggrin Isn't Spam what they fed the soldiers in the war? then it became a BBQ treat in Hawaii?  there is a BBQ joint here and thats what they use for BBQ'N 

I use to like the stuff when I was a kid,, but my flavor buds must have decided that it wasn't really that good after all,,,,,spam.gif and appairently it makes computers sick too......even kills em sometimes



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Knew some folks once who both had worked in a big cannery complex in the midwest.  They told us that the dog food that they canned was made of better quality meats and vegatables than what went into the beef stew that the parent company made.  He said the where he worked on the processing line was prior to the addition of the fillers and stuff, and that the workers often would get their lunch right out of the cooking kettles.  They also told us of the differences in various brands, all canned in the same plant; same for the vegetables and fruit that he company canned for various different brands.

Oh, yeah: SPAM, the state meat of Hawaii.  I like the stuff once in a blue moon, maybe, but as I have gotten older, my sensitive tastes have apparently matured, and it seems to be too salty, for the most part, now.  Mostly, I use it in "Slumgullion", mashed taters, onions, and diced up SPAM; my Dad used to make it when we were flush and could afford the SPAM, in the mid forties before things got better.



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We worked on a big college campus in Lubbock Texas , many years ago,  and one of the laborers we hired from the area,,,said he had worked in a meat packing plant there ,, I think he said it was Cudahy??? and said the mixture that they made for the weiners, and balogna was some of the most god awful stuff he had ever seen, scraps  from all kinds of meat, hearts, gland meat,etc, pickups off the floors, all kinds of other ingrediants thrown in,, said he will Never eat a hot dog or any kind of lunch meat,,

I won't eat any lunch meat unless its the sliced ham, or chicken breast,,  and then I have to be pretty damn hungry......



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That big college campus was Texas Tech University, Amigo - - - jist soze ya know

I had a friend that died from eating dog food.
He was chasing a cat and a car ran over him.


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Mostly, I use it in "Slumgullion", mashed taters, onions, and diced up SPAM;

 That's the way Sherry tried to fool me with it - - - - - didn't work - - - all it did was screw up some good taters and ownyons.no



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I had a friend that died from eating dog food.

He was chasing a cat and a car ran over him.


 That's the way I always thought about chasing cat: I'd prob'ly get hurt if I caught one, and nowadays, I couldn't do much with one if I did catch it.  

We now return to our normally scheduled program: "Dave's Bathtub Saga".



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Yes indeed, sorry Dave, it's the Senior Citizen coming out !



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all i can say is i dont eat spam. hahaha

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Back to the programbiggrin

Got the tub in - dead nut side to side and a wee bit off end to end - i.e. the bubble on my 4 foot level is just touching a line which makes the drain end a little low but it does match the floor. Found out the 'hole' for sure isn't plumb, square, even or level. Its 'trapezoidal' shaped as far as installing the surrounds = what a PITA!! But it is a very big developer's tract house, it did have at least one frozen pipe flood and there is a 'hump' starting in the basement directly below the bathroom going right straight up throught the house and probably a direct result of the pipe  break flood. So what does this mean? Adjust and fudge to make it work.

The Gerber side drain is a very nice piece and is exactly what I needed to make things work without chopping a big notch in a floor joist. I did hole saw a pretty big hole in it to fix the plumbing run, but it is doubled plus has 1-1/4" of plywood screwed down for strength. I may have to pull a cupboard out in the kitchen and open a hole in the ceiling to tighten the fittings though but it is what it is!!! I had to replace a shut off - it was a compression valve - I had to turn it 180*. Drip, Drip, Drip. Love those Shark Bite fittings - that is all but the price - $14 w/tax for a 1/2" ball valve - PHEW

For the 'rockers - waterproof drywall at HD is about $13/ 8' sheet OMG - last one I bought was probably in the 5 buck range.

Getting back to canned food - Dinty Moore stew or Spaghettios - ??????????



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That big college campus was Texas Tech University, Amigo - - - jist soze ya know

I had a friend that died from eating dog food.
He was chasing a cat and a car ran over him.


 Yeah I think it was,, in Lubbock,, thats where I almost fell out of a 10 or 12th story window,, and set my pants on fire in the crapper tryin to get warm,,, worse job I ever been on Amigo,,,

even had a tornado go through , we had stocked piles of sheetrock on the roof while  we could get the crain, and then that storm hit and blew sheetrock all over town,,, man -oh man those were the days"  days of misery,,,,omfg.gif

 

WOOPS  sorry Dave,, had to get that in there sommersbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin



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Wow Dave, I gotta go lay down after reading that last post. Got me plumb tuckered out but it looks like you got it going your way so congrats.

As far as Denny Moore Stew, Spaghettios, canned Ravioli and pork and beans go, it ain't in my tummy that's for sure.

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Look at it this way, Dave; better that the drain end is a little low, than a little high.

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Wow Dave, I gotta go lay down after reading that last post. Got me plumb tuckered out but it looks like you got it going your way so congrats.

As far as Denny Moore Stew, Spaghettios, canned Ravioli and pork and beans go, it ain't in my tummy that's for sure.


 Em - let's say that this little project wasn't quite as simple as yanking out the old tub and screwing the new one in place. But then most projects just seem to turn out that way. Heck it's winter, chilly and the alternative would be to sit in my recliner, warm dog on my lap and snooze my life away.



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Just a short update,

First of all, don't ever buy a Praxxis tub and enclosure and expect it to 'drop in'. After fighting with getting the enclosure decided to check why a so-called 60" enclosure wont fit in a 60.5" hole. It's because the enclosure is really 61+ inches at the top and the studs have to be notched at both ends as ya just can't compress fiberglass and gel coat. Yes, the tub is absolutely level both directions now as I really didn't feel right without doing it and yes, the studding is well within 'limits, i.e. probably about as plumb and square as any in the house. You can anticipate my language when it comes to 'rocking and tiling.  Then there is that paper thin, gel coat only thickness screw flange crack that I needed to 'glass repair today(oh yeah, 'glass resin is now about $19/quart for the good 3m stuff). Then to cap the day off, yesterday I ordered a new Delta valve with stops and thin wall brackets - it arrived just fine - except the stops are missing.

I NEED A VACATION????????



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Ouch Dave, you are a glutton (compliment intended) but it looks like you're ?still? in control of the sitchiation.

Sure like the new Avatar - - - I assume that's a recent pic of the CEO - right?

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Ouch Dave, you are a glutton (compliment intended) but it looks like you're ?still? in control of the sitchiation.

Sure like the new Avatar - - - I assume that's a recent pic of the CEO - right?


Em - I usually take a remodel project with a grain of salt. There are always problems that I  b!@#h about, and this one should be a no brainer, with just the normal little fitup problems.  I realize that I'm not a builder, just a semi advanced DIY'er  and it will take longer, but parts quality or lack of it really pizz me off. As far as the faucet valve - the old one is only 4 months old and the same brand, but without the built in stops(shut offs) and is 100% useable, I just wanted the next level up along with the thin wall adapters.

That's the way the pup comes in after a romp in the snow. CEO = Chief Enjoyment Officer? If so, that pup sure is.



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If I may stray for a sec - - - - The neighborhood we live in now is predominantly older folks and it's one of the many subdvs around Lake Conroe (recreational area). Needless to say that a lot of these "Golden Oldies" have dogs that they walk because you wouldn't dare let one loose around here 'cause they'd get run over pretty quick. Anyhow, there are several of the dogs that call me Unka Em 'cause when I'm outside and they come strolling by, I always go give them an ear rub, back scratch or under muzzle scratch - - - - and THEY LOVE IT ! Always been a dog person myself but we are limited to two cats now that can go and roam at will (or at anyone they want to roam at, if Will's not around)

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Speaking of cats...... http://www.cracked.com/funny-2933-cats-their-owners/   



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Speaking of cats...... http://www.cracked.com/funny-2933-cats-their-owners/   


 Those cat people are ridiculous and I'm not anything like them.  My home is my Castle and especially my chairs.  I have two chairs, my computer chair and my recliner that belong to ME and ONLY ME.

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As long as we've hijacked my thread, here's some cat things to consider:

Cat Joke #1

 

VERSION 1

Two ROBINS were lying on their backs, BASKING in the sun. A mama cat and her kitten were walking by. The kitten complained, 'Mama, I'm sooo hungry, what can we eat?' To which the mama cat, spying the two robins, replied,

"How about some Baskin Robbins?"

VERSION 2

Two robins were sitting in a tree.

"I'm really hungry," said the first one. "Let's fly down and find some lunch."

They flew down to the ground and found a nice plot of newly ploughed ground that was full of worms. They ate and ate and ate till they could eat no more.

"I'm so full, I don't think I can fly back up into the tree," said the first one.

"Let's just lay back here and bask in the warm sun," said the second.

"Okay," said the first.

So they plopped down, basking in the sun. No sooner had they fallen asleep, when a big fat tomcat came around and gobbled them up.

As the cat sat washing his face after his meal, he thought...

"I just LOVE Baskin Robins."

 


 

Cat Joke #2

 

Four men were bragging about how smart their cats are. The first man was an Engineer, the second man was an Accountant, the third man was a Chemist, the fourth was a Government Worker.

To show off, the Engineer called to his cat. "T-square, do your stuff." T-square pranced over to a desk, took out some paper and a pen and promptly drew a circle, a square, and a triangle.

Everyone agreed that was pretty smart. But the Accountant said his cat could do better. He called his cat and said, "Spreadsheet, do your stuff." Spreadsheet went out into the kitchen and returned with a dozen cookies. He divided them into 4 equal piles of 3 cookies each. Everyone agreed that was good.

But the Chemist said his cat could do better. He called his cat and said, "Measure, do your stuff." Measure got up, walked over to the fridge, took out a quart of milk, got a 10 ounce glass from the cupboard and poured exactly 8 ounces without spilling a drop. Everyone agreed that was good.

Then the three men turned to the Government Worker and said, "What can your cat do?" The Government Worker called to his cat and said, "Coffee Break, do your stuff." Coffee Break jumped to his feet, ate the cookies, drank the milk, peed on the paper, sexually assaulted the other three cats, claimed he injured his back while doing so, filed a grievance report for unsafe working conditions, put in for Workers Compensation and went home for the rest of the day on sick leave.

 


 

Cat Joke #3

 

A tom cat and a tabby cat were courting on a back fence at night.

The tom leaned over to the tabby with pent up passion and purred "I'll die for you!"

The tabby gazed at him from under lowered eye lids and asked... "How many times?"

 


 

Cat Joke #4

 

In the Bronx, N.Y., lived a rich cat who was a bit of a snob, though she did deign to chat on occasion with her neighbour, an alley cat.

One day, she announced that she was about to have an operation, but she didn't mention what it was for.

Two weeks later, her humble friend saw her again and inquired politely how she was feeling, then dared to ask what kind of operation she had had.

"Oh, I am quite well now, thank you," the rich cat replied, stiffly. "I had a hysterectomy."

"For heaven's sake!" the alley cat exclaimed in exasperation, ... "Why can't you call a spayed a spayed."

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..... and that bath tub surround - it got to be like playing horse shoes or hand grenades - close enough (but not my usual 'quality')



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Just wanted to 'report' that the bath tub/bathroom rehab project is still proceeding but now about 3 weeks behind schedule. The day was well spent cleaning the mastic and old grout off of about wall 180 tiles, 4.25" square along with another hundred or so 1" square tiles zzzzzzz. I'll need to do probably 50 or so partials as well. My new name after that thrill is Braindead. The DW also picked up some paint and the (hopefully) correct parts for the water valve are due tomorrow via FedEx after 3 tries

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Can you see the light at the end of the tunnel yet, Dave ? Sometimes a ?project? can turn into something slightly more can't it?

This place has been a little like the Maytag Repairman's telephone lately but hopefully it will pick back up soon.

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hey dave. i like that cushon on your chair. looks like the cat does too. it sure would help mt lack of tookus ! dont feel to bad dave. my dang projects get a bit complicated too. seems one thing calls for another. hahaha, you'll get er done.


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Isn't that what projects are supposed to go like, Dave??  biggrinbiggrinbiggrinwink



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I guess I'm happy that I don't have to earn a living doing these kinds of projects.  All of the preliminary work is done, the fresh drywall pasted 'n' primed, the new door molding up, the aluminum tile edging installed, the tile all cleaned and ready, a new trowel bought (needed a 'V' tooth version) and tomorrow will begin replacing the tile. I still need to plumb in the water supply, but that shouldn't be too difficult with Shark-Bite fittings - I'm reusing the 3 month old Delta valve instead of the new one with built in stops. That tub installation probably would have gone easier and maybe even faster if I had been smart enough to have removed the one end wall completely then set the three pieces, done my alignment then rebuilt the wall. There is NOTHING straight or even on that POS tub so everything is a compromise with one of the three sections raised a bit in the middle even though the ends are perpendicular and the tub is level and the surround wall sections bolted to the tub solidly though the one doesn't look like it is. Another 'gotcha' is that I assumed everything was a decent manufacture so didn't measure before disassembly before I moved it inside.

IT IS WHAT IT IS!!!! It will look OK, but not great.

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Still working on it, but the end is getting close. Finished tiling Monday and will grout today, made up a template for drilling holes for the valve plus opened the closet wall more for better access to the plumbing and the DW bought paint to change the untiled parts of the wall. I still need some cove shaped tiles to finish off the tub to floor as I had to jack it up some to level, but that can go in most any time. If anyone had said that there would be this much 'fuss' might have gone with the $2-3000 Bath Fitter. At least that POS tub would have fitted

 



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sounds like that light's getting brighter, eh Dave?

FWIW, don't ever let anyone talk you into the tungsten carbide hole cutting bit SEE PIC - - they are a POS



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sounds like that light's getting brighter, eh Dave?

FWIW, don't ever let anyone talk you into the tungsten carbide hole cutting bit SEE PIC - - they are a POS


 That light is absolutely glaring now.

I have a whole drawer full of conventional hole saws 1/2" to over 4" including a brand new, came from somewhere, 2-3/8" Lenox that will be used that is sharper then .... well it's sharp. Many of these came either from McMaster Carr or a swap meet, so I do have some odd sizes, and most are Starrett, Sandvik and Nicholson.



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that POS that I bought was sold as a Tile Hole Bit and you could burn up a 1/2" drill waiting for it to get thru ceramic tile. If that light gets too bright you might wanna break out the welding helmet?

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'Bout done except the shouting (at my DW). She can't make up her mind what color to paint the @#$%^&* trim and doors.

Tile is done, water flows (and drains), walls and ceiling painted, new covers on the baseboard heat, the last coat of the sealant will be put around the tub tomorrow, a new surround for the 8 bulb light made (but, of course, not painted {@#$%^&} )

$%^#@$$ - might work on the '31 tomorrow, that is after I visit the tax prep guy - probably have to wring out the crying towel first.

 

Does the frustration show?evileyeevileyeevileye



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Nawwwww not at all - - - - - ask her if she would like for you to pick the color - - - OK, bad idea I know but at least you can still see that perverbial (sp) light. Maybe you could snap some pics while she makes up her mind



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Nawwwww not at all - - - - - ask her if she would like for you to pick the color - - - OK, bad idea I know but at least you can still see that perverbial (sp) light. Maybe you could snap some pics while she makes up her mind


  I suggested that I 'do' the color but she reminded me of my color blindness - which I don't have with shades of off white, light beige or tan - sooooo we wait. She also needs to find a couple new towel racks.

Pics are in the camera. Since Photobucket has been "improved" am having a problem getting them to upload in the right place - but they are eventually going to be posted.

 



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Yeah, my Wiffy accuses me of being "color challenged" also but she's an artist with credentials and I'm a git'a bigger hammer type guy so she could have a ?point? no

I know, all too well, where you're coming from on the "improved" PB site - - - grrrrrrr

Maybe she'll pick out a color when Y'all dye the Easter Eggs this weekend????biggrinbiggrin  Just don't dye them white or you won't find'em until the Spring run off. confuse



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Speaking of the weekend - we are going to 'visit' the puppy's grandmother (the breeder) and help a new, never owned one, dog owner family family pick out a pup for themselves. These folks have a child that has major allergies so we need to help them choose correctly as we may end up with the dog if it doesn't work out. Evidently our dog was one of the breeder's favorites as she was very insistant we bring her for a visit too.

Color? Hopefully my DW goes out today, after the new reefer is delivered, and does the color choice. That's one project I want DONE! NOW! I'm not happy with how the tub installed, but it is what it is



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My youngest son had allergies and respiratory problems as a child and we were told to get him a Chihuahua. We did and it was the perfect choice in his case. The little chit's name was Killer and it fit him perfectly. He grew old and died in my lap on night growling and trying to bite me but somehow I loved him and missed him when he left us. Sorry bout the ramblin'

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