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Toilet Water Level ?


ATTN: All you Plumber's Friends !

I need to know if there is any way to raise the water level in the toilet bowl other than raising it in the tank also. I don't mind raising the tank level with the adjustment screw at the end of the float ball rod but I was wondering if there was another way to get the bowl level higher????????

Our tank mechanism looks like this.

The water level in the tank is approx. 3" from the top of the tank but there's only about 3.5" of water in the bowl.

"Help"

meller



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I dont think that raising the tank level will do anything to the bowl level.....It all depends on the "U" depth of the trap part of the bowl......

Me tinks yer needs a diffront terlit.................

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Me tinks you be right !

After I posted this I took the lid off and thought "Well Hell, I'll just adjust the screw at the end of the float ball rod and see what happens."

When I did I got a reminder of what I have known for years and that is:
"IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT" and I"m seriously thinking of having that tatooed on my forehead soze I don't forget it again.

The adjusting screw is "plastic" so I only used my fingers to move it BUT in the process I managed to strip out the threads and now I have a continuously running toilet - - - GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Managed to Red Green a little shim in there to stop the water flow but now I'm on my way to town to pick up a new unit for the tank - - - - GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Maybe I won't screw something up and we can once again S??? and P??? like normal folks.

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Mello Yello wrote:



When I did I got a reminder of what I have known for years and that is:
"IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT" and I"m seriously thinking of having that tatooed on my forehead soze I don't forget it again.



 Make sure you put it backwards so you can read it in the mirror every morning....lol



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yep poncho, you nailed it ! but, if its not ventin rite it can pull some water out like a siphon.a sign of that is that gurglin sound at the end of the flush. the air catchin up.

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This'll show ya'.  Geezer and Poncho are correctamundo.  We bought new toilets for this house, and I shopped and studied for a good while to find some we thught would do the way we wanted; seems most today are designed with the lower water level in the bowl, apparently in the interest of gov't enforced water conservation; I wonder if the regulation makers in wherever the regulations about toilets are devised have ever realized the some places using less is not conservation.

Sorry, I think you'll have to copy and paste the link.

 

 

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://kingsrooterplumbing.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/toilet-cut-out-diagram.jpg&imgrefurl=http://kingsrooterplumbing.com/toilets/toilet-cut-out-diagram/&h=656&w=600&sz=39&tbnid=pe_h-DTPeeoIMM:&tbnh=85&tbnw=78&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtoilet%2Bdiagram%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=toilet+diagram&usg=__o2_y3DwlXDyRQXB0l7JTVNcKqV4=&docid=1XfTwFw2uULiwM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=RH8iUa-DOpH22QW3_4G4Bg&sqi=2&ved=0CC8Q9QEwAA&dur=6321



-- Edited by poncho62 on Monday 18th of February 2013 06:02:33 PM

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Thanks Gents, I did manage to get over to the Handyman's Toy Store today and pick up a ball-c-o-c-k but I think I'm gonna wait until Wednesday to try and install it.

Sherry Belle got a call from her Doc concerning the Ultrasound they did on her thyroid last week so we'll be leaving the house at 5:30am tomorrow for some follow up tests. This one is a two part and that's about all I know about it. First part at 8am and then back at 11am for something else.

Since we have that facing us, I don't have time to deal with possible problems. I also don't want us to have to climb the stairs to use the upstairs john all night.

Thanks again for the help,
meller

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Rrumbler wrote:

Sorry, I think you'll have to copy and paste the link.

Rrumbler, if you will put [ u r l ] in the front of the link and then [ / u r l ] at the end EXCEPT without the spaces in between, it will be clickable when you post it.  Like this!

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://kingsrooterplumbing.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/toilet-cut-out-diagram.jpg&imgrefurl=http://kingsrooterplumbing.com/toilets/toilet-cut-out-diagram/&h=656&w=600&sz=39&tbnid=pe_h-DTPeeoIMM:&tbnh=85&tbnw=78&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtoilet%2Bdiagram%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=toilet+diagram&usg=__o2_y3DwlXDyRQXB0l7JTVNcKqV4=&docid=1XfTwFw2uULiwM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=RH8iUa-DOpH22QW3_4G4Bg&sqi=2&ved=0CC8Q9QEwAA&dur=6321



-- Edited by Mello Yello on Monday 18th of February 2013 03:09:36 PM



-- Edited by Mello Yello on Monday 18th of February 2013 03:10:23 PM

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poncho62 wrote:
Mello Yello wrote:

Make sure you put it backwards so you can read it in the mirror every morning....lol


 Good Point, I'm thinking something like this maybe ????  It should be hard to ignore, eh?



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OK Gang, I ?think? I "got'er done" and without any hitches ?I think? - - however, I do have one more question, if I may????

The reason for asking this question is "directly related to &$@&$@ plastic merchandise" and when I saw my forhead tatoo I remembered why Poncho recommended that I put it there.

If you will notice the water level in the tank in attached picture, you will see that it is slightly lower than it was before I replaced the ball(censored) hahahaha and I realize that I can raise that level by turning the larger plastic slotted screw at the very end of the float rod - - - - shuuuudddddeerrrrr BUT I had rather leave it alone if I can.  I guess my question is this:  "is the water in the tank the same water that washes and rinses the bowl when you flush?????  OR is it only for the siphon effect and another water source is used to clean the bowl?????

If I haven't made this simple question difficult enuff then let me know and I'll try harder next time.

Thanks as always,

meller



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When you push the handle down and it raises the flapper, the water rushes into the rim and starts the washdown; at the front of the rim is a chanel that drops down to the siphon outlet in the lower bowl and starts the siphon action - that is the jet of water that you see down there when you flush.  The combination of water movements carries the waste away and cleans the bowl, sort of.  Then, after the flapper closes, the bowl refill tube runs water into the bowl through the overflow until the water level reaches the height of the siphon wall in the trap; ideally, the bowl fill and the tank fill should end at about the same time, but usually, the tank fill takes a bit longer, and the extra water that is sent down the overflow by the bowl fill tube just runs on down the drain; not that much water to worry about waste.  Go back and look at those pictures that you and I put up, and you can see the relation of all the parts.



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OK, now I understand the flow route of the water so I think I'll try and get the tank level a little higher like it was originally.  It probably won't clean any better but it can't hurt nuttin'.  Now, if I break it or strip it out that noise and rumble you will hear is not an earthquake so don't be alarmed.

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Done and no earthquake sounds necessary.



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