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Grandson's '66 Mustang Road Trip


Today, my oldest son asked me to go with him and his son (my Grandson) to look at and maybe buy a '66 Mustang so we left my house a little after lunch.  The car was about a 3 hour drive but we made it fine there and back.  The little 289 ran like a top and there was never any drips or drools where we stopped for gas and lunch.  David and I both drove it some and the only two things we noticed were a slight whine in the rearend at around 60/65 and occasionally you could hear what sounded like a lifter tapping but not always.  The Grandson doesn't have his license yet so he had to be content as a passenger and even tho it didn't have AC and it is Dog Days Of Summer here in Texas - - - he wanted to ride in the Stang all the way back.  I'm afraid that ?we? have created a monster. LOL  I'm sure that there will be little things that need attending as they start using it but we all were so pleased with it's performance on the trip home.

Looking it over


Trying it out for ?size?


Headed home


First fill-up


Let's go eat - I'm starving


Great lunch !  Old German Towns are way cool


Nothing but Rice Dryers and Water Towers for scenery


Back on the road headed home




Home Sweet Home - - - a long day but a great day



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Not a bad lookin ford,, sounds like it might just be the thing to get that boy on the way to learning the thrills of car ownership,

 

 Cooper and his dad have been working on the 65, coop has football practice every night, but is out there in the shop every morning sanding away on that thing,, great father/son project

great thing to keep these youngsters out of doing anything that they don't need to be doing,,, and spending dads money,,,,DSCN4245.JPG



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When I go into my ?third? childhood, I wanna be just like Coop.

That's my Left Coast Buddy right there.

I noticed that the Shop Supervisor is holding down a chair in the background.

Gotta have some one taking care of quality control. biggrin



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It looks like you all had a great day.  Nice looking little "Horsey", too.

You commented on the rice dryers and water towers on one picture:  I had the pleasure of spending a couple of weeks in Plano in 1978 at Thanksgiving.  We got into DFW on a "redeye" at about 0200, and it was raining; next morning, it was snowing - I didn't see the sun for three days.  Every time we went out, it was real heavily cloudy and I could not get my bearings, no idea of what direction I was going.  Even after it cleared off, I still was completely disoriented - there was nothing I could get my bearings on, no mountains, which has always been my anchor for direction finding; of course, I could figure north and such from the sun, but just where I was in relation to anything was the sixty four million dollar question.  Finally, after about a week, I began to recognize the different water towers in the towns around the area, and they became my "mountains", and I was not so mixed up and turned around any more.

So you spotted the ramrod, too?  That was almost the first thing I noticed, Coop being right out front and unmistakable, but that guy lurking in the background caught my eye immediately,  I had a foreman that didn't like jobsites, and he would make me a Leadman on some job, and then he would lurk around the area somewhere trying to catch us in some sort of compromising situation.  I got pretty good at spotting him.



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I'll bet you that, if he didn't know the pic was being taken,
he would have been smiling like a possum eating yeller jackets.

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David just called and said that Seth had already fixed some lights and things that weren't working, cranked it at least 100 times biggrinbiggrinbiggrin and he's been around the short block in their subdivision learning how to work the clutch and brake. Won't take him long because the desire and passion is raging now. It is still about a year before he can get his learners permit but he's having fun with it already.

I've also just been informed that it's a '65 and not a '66.  They all looked alike to me back then and still do.



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Hah, I just looked at that picture again; Ol' Rat ain't smilin', is he?  What are you doin' back there in the dark, Bill?



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biggrinbiggrin Looks like he wants a turn at sanding, but coop said, I got it...biggrinbiggrin



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Hah, I just looked at that picture again; Ol' Rat ain't smilin', is he?  What are you doin' back there in the dark, Bill?


 Boy it didn't take you guys long to see what I do best,, but the last few weeks my get-up-and-go just got up and left without me,, so I was just watchin ,  Billy was givin me crap about sitting back there watching them,, so that's my story and I'm stickin to it,,,,biggrinbiggrin

I like watchin Coop, he just loves too work,, on anything,, not only cars,  him and his sister are here for another week, then back to his moms, and then school starts,



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We are blessed old men, Amigo - - - what would we do without that 3rd generation to remind us of who and ?what? we are and were ? Man, am I leaving us wide open with that statement. Fire away Gentlemen.

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We are blessed old men, Amigo - - - what would we do without that 3rd generation to remind us of who and ?what? we are and were ? Man, am I leaving us wide open with that statement. Fire away Gentlemen.


 Nah, I'd have to load up with grape and chain to have any hope of hitting anything.

I feel ya', Rat, mine has gone somewhere else, too.  I have been so whanged up the past few months that sitting around is the thing I am doing best.  A couple of weeks ago my Tundra started making unhappy sounds, so I decided I could at least sort out the reason, and maybe go ahead and fix whatever it was - - NOT.  Four trips to the ground/driveway, under the truck, back out, and back on my feet, and I was totally wrecked.  Wound up taking it to a shop, and they found nothing wrong, couldn't get the brakes to hang up or bang around, nothing wrong with the driveshaft.  They did pull the drums on the back and they were clean as a whistle, with about 80% life still on the linings, drums smooth as the ought to be; front brakes good, too.  So, I had them do a LOF while they had it up, and went on my aching and grumping way.  That was a week ago, and my back is still hurting me.  I hate getting old, sometimes.



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Last night I was waiting for my oldest son and his wife to bring our grandson, Seth, over to stay with us while they go to Houston this morning for some more testing on my D.I.L. plus meeting with her transplant team - - - I'll bring Y'all up to date on that booger boo later - - - it has us all very worried - - - - OK, I digress - - - I was sitting in the living room waiting on them and I heard this really cool sounding set of exhausts that weren't recognizable to me as any of the bikes, trucks or cars that normally come down our road and turn around at the cul-de-sac and then it dawned on me that it was THE '66 MUSTANG - - - - I was like a little kid running out on the back porch grinning from ear to ear.  It sounded good and seemed to be running very nicely also.  Hopefully this will spark me into taking mine out more - - - heck I might even pick my grandson up at High School this evening in the '62.   Hmmmmm ???????

Anyhow, it sure was nice to see my kids drive up in a Vintage Stang



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Yeah   getting old ER is sure gonna be a ordeal,, but there ain't a damned thing we can do about it , but piss and moan like we do about everything,, man-up  and limber- up,  neither one of those is easy to do,, is it?

we have been busy every weekend going to grandkids ball games, cheerleading, etc,, watching those kids play football , sure brings beck memories,,, OLD FOGGY memories, Coop is playing for his 3rd year, and he don't mess around either,, his dad told him for every tackle he would give him 20 $ ( and told him if he made the kid he tackled cry he would get a extra 5$) and his mom made the same offer,,except for the 5$thing) Saturday they regreted that offer,, Coop sacked the quarter back twice, 40$ that's 80$ in my figuring,,,and told his dad that he asked the quarter back to act like he was crying  so he could get that extra 5$ and they would split it,,  I think they might be rethinking that offer,,, (BRIBE) good thing I kept my mouth shut when the bribes were being made,,,,wink

That Stang is just like the one we have in the shop,, and looks to be a fine specimen ,, looks to be pretty clean ,,, how much did he have to pay for it?  I bet ole Seth is chomppin at the bits isn't he? how old is he now,, about 15 or so? 



 



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Yup he's chompin' at the bits and yankin' on the traces too - - - - he really had a big smile when he saw how excited I got when they drove it over - - - they paid 6K for it and it sure seems like a solid little ride. 



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not a bad price at all,, as long as the grimilins don't start showing their nasty faces,, the one Billy is suspose to be working on is sitting just like I figured it would,, he can't stop chasing women long enough to do anything,,, he's about to get the rath of the ole man   furiousfuriousfuriousfuriousfurious,

 

 



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I told David that we need to get both our Fffffffurds up on a rack and give them a good looking over some day.  Even if we have to rent the lift time.



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I can just about hear that Stang rrumbling down the drive; they can make a real nice rrumble when they're done right.  I bet the boy is anxious; I can remember that feeling when I got my '51 - my first car.

Been a bit occupied myself of late; started to "school" two nights a week to study for my Technicians Class Amateur Radio (Ham) license, and I am Bella's squire for most of her softball practices two or three evenings a week.  Spent most of Saturday at the ballpark where she had a double header - first formal game(s) of the season, and since this is her first year in softball, first for her.  Unfortunately, her team is mostly first year girls, so they lack a lot in the skills department, and lost both games.  The heartening thing was, though, that I didn't see one grumpy face out of the twelve, they all were beaming and sort of glowing - worn out, dirty, but happy, and they are a real team, all for one and all that stuff; they set up a cheering section when they are up to bat, and when they are in the field, the three in the dugout are the cheering section.

Well, time to get ready to commence to start to head out to "school".

Later.



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hahaha, reminds me of me. i drove them ol mustangs at his age. cool.hes gona grow to love that ol hunk of tin. i did.


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Y'all should get a kick out this one:

I was talking to David after they got back from Houston and I commented again on how good I thought the exhaust system sounded.  I asked him how the "stang" drove on the way home the other night and he said, real good and I have to admit that when I turned onto the road we live on, I dumped the clutch and lit'em up and those pipes really sounded good when I did that.  I told him that Seth would be grounding him if he didn't watch out. biggrinbiggrinbiggrin



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Brief Update on Seth and David's project car.

Actually it's very sad news on the "65 Stang. After having it rewired and a new 4bbl Holley installed David took it to a fellow out of Willis that does Classic Car body work and paint. The fellow called him yesterday and asked him to drop by and when he got there the man said "bad news". He was supposed to replace the pans underneath the cowl vent which are bad to rust out and when they got into it there was nothing to weld to. The torque boxes on the frame are gone and so are the fender hangers. The floorboard is barely there and should have fallen thru already. The man told David he was surprised that the car hadn't broken into going down the highway.

OK, now for some better news. The man has a friend in Bedias that has lots of old cars he has collected and he has a '65 that he'll take $850 for. He was going to run up there today and ?if? it's sound then the plan is to take the new body and put it on the drive train and also use David's interior from their POS Stang.

I'll keep Y"all updated as I know but Seth's first car is fixing to be a pricey ride, especially for a mid sixties stang. I never thought they were worth much to start with

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not a bad price at all,, as long as the grimilins don't start showing their nasty faces,, the one Billy is suspose to be working on is sitting just like I figured it would,, he can't stop chasing women long enough to do anything,,, he's about to get the rath of the ole man   furiousfuriousfuriousfuriousfurious,

 

 


I just noticed the date that I posted this picture   ALMOST 2 YEARS AGO ( within 9 days) that friggin Mustang is still sitting just like it was when that picture was taken, and the owner is fit to be tied and ready to sue someone ( and I don't blame her a bit) I reminded of what I told her when she wanted us to do the damned thing,,( HELL NO I DON"T WANT ANY PART OF THAT MESS)  but BILLY  pleaded to do it   so now look where it sits   just like I told her it would be,,, 2 years later,, I still don't want anything to do with it  ,





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Spoke with my Son yesterday and after looking at a couple of "Rust"ang bodies he's decided to go up and look at that '67 Ford 2dr hrdtp and see if it's a possible "alternate route" - - - supposedly the '67 ?runs? whatever that means. smile

He's wondering if the strong rebuild 289 he has can be matched up to the C4 (?) that's in the '67 and if it's solid then he's probably gonna bite the bullet and go that route.  The bullet is only $1700 (asking price) so hopefully this will get him out of the rust pit he's in.

I personally like the looks of that year car much better than the mid-sixties Stangs.  Far as that goes I never liked those cars until the Boss Fastback came out.  Oh Well, I'm trying to keep my mouth shut and just be here for support and limiteld assistance, if needed.



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Brief Update on Seth and David's project car.

Actually it's very sad news on the "65 Stang. After having it rewired and a new 4bbl Holley installed David took it to a fellow out of Willis that does Classic Car body work and paint. The fellow called him yesterday and asked him to drop by and when he got there the man said "bad news". He was supposed to replace the pans underneath the cowl vent which are bad to rust out and when they got into it there was nothing to weld to. The torque boxes on the frame are gone and so are the fender hangers. The floorboard is barely there and should have fallen thru already. The man told David he was surprised that the car hadn't broken into going down the highway.

OK, now for some better news. The man has a friend in Bedias that has lots of old cars he has collected and he has a '65 that he'll take $850 for. He was going to run up there today and ?if? it's sound then the plan is to take the new body and put it on the drive train and also use David's interior from their POS Stang.

I'll keep Y"all updated as I know but Seth's first car is fixing to be a pricey ride, especially for a mid sixties stang. I never thought they were worth much to start with

Em


All those damned mustangs are unibody ,, meaning they Have NO FRAME  ,  you can replace the fenders -doors etc , the cowl and firewall is the main structure but if rust is too bad, its a lost cause,   I'm DEFINATELY NOT a Mustang guy, so I wouldn't know much about what to do in you're sons case, other than go hunting for the guy he bought it from,,, that's probably the reason he got rid of it,,  in most cases like this a BIG PISS elm club and a fiery temper might help get some or all you're money back,,, but don't bet on it



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I believe that the mid-sized Fords were uni-body cars too, at least my boys '68 Torino, aka: Fairlane, was. I don't know about the "full sized" ones, though; weren't they the Galaxy?

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I think you're right on the Galaxie - - that paint and body man told David that the ?torque boxes? were completely gone - - - and, truthfully, I had no idea what he was talking about so I need to brush up on Unibody data myself.

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Did a little snooping on the ford sites ( Damn just thinkin the word FORD leaves a terrible taste in my mouth) and came up with this   http://www.fordmuscleforums.com/all-ford-techboard/422426-possible-put-60-s-mustang-body-mid-90sto-2003-mustang-frame.html 

about placing the MM2 body on a later frame,, or something like that   could get into some serious $$$$$$$

 



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Mustang torque boxes.  Apparently, they add stiffness to the frame-body connection; in the picture on this site, you can plainly see the front sub-frame.  That looks exactly like Jeremy's Torino; they (the sub-frames) are welded to the floor of the unit body.  In Camaros, the front sub-frame is bolted to the body pan and can be removed, hence their use in "front clipping" older trucks and other rodding applications.

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CJ Pony parts is where I got all the replacement parts for this POS 65 mustang that's taking up space in the shop now,,, they are a very good supplier of Quality MM2 parts,   those boxes look like a very easy fix for you're grandsons car,, Meller         http://www.cjponyparts.com/mustang-parts/c/60000000/     



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