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I just bought ANOTHER new tool


The engine in my '31 has to come out for some machine work so I 'justified' another tool purchase.

I had been using the steel beam that I modified a while back, along with my chain fall, reinforced with my heavy duty construction jacks for safety sake. That was on earlier and shorter cars and this one before I put the body and gas tank on. Oooooops!!! The car is too long now and while I can still center the engine under that beam, I can't roll the car back with an engine supported over that compartment. I also had a source where I could borrow a hoist - he got unmarried and lost about everything he owned (he was the 'cad' not her, so he paid....and pays) . So, with that said Harbor Freight has their 2 ton hoist on sale for $199. I had a 20% off coupon (had a 25% coupon but it expired), Discover Card is another 5% so even with tax, still pretty inexpensive. Then, since the local HF told me on the phone they were out of that part number, I then ordered it on line. It's being shipped to my door via FedEx for $6.99. I can't even drive to the local store, a 40-50 mile round trip for that @$4.09 gallon/diesel fuel. I'll probably turn around and sell the hoist for close to what I paid for it when I'm done as there is just not enough space for something that big even in this fairly large house - I already have too many big 'things' stashed around.

At this point, I could probably with minimal help, lift the engine out. The only thing still in the block is the cam and crankshaft. It's when it goes back in fully assembled that this hoist will be really needed.

Sorry about the sideways photo - the site did it to me!!



-- Edited by Dave W on Wednesday 22nd of January 2014 02:15:54 PM

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A car guy just can't have enough tools,, and any excuse to obtain some will work most times,, my problem is that the good intentions of selling them off when I no longer need them often is where the trouble starts, and need that tool again,, so I just keep them and run out of garage space,,,,  confuse

I have been wanting a 4 post lift,, but don't have the room,, I have a nice A frame that rolls around to wherever I need it,, great for lifting engines, bodys  (car Bodys) but not getting a whole car up in the air,,, confuse  Whats the reason for rebuilding the engine? or did I miss the explanation?



-- Edited by Bad Rat on Thursday 23rd of January 2014 12:45:27 PM

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Bad Rat wrote:
  Whats the reason for rebuilding the engine? or did I miss the explanation?



-- Edited by Bad Rat on Thursday 23rd of January 2014 12:45:27 PM


 I've posted bottom end clunking problems on a couple of Hotrodders.com threads. I was supposed to have jumped into it last year - except procrastination set in, only to have been at least temporarily cured this year. But, with that said, two years ago I went out to see how well it would accelerate so I dropped my size 12 hammer on the gas pedal - and immediately tore the USA made motor mounts apart. That in turn ****ed the engine in the chassis which took the throttle to scream position - two things happened. I found out that 6000 rpm is NOT the limit for roller lifters and two, there was a brand new bottom end noise. I'm still not sure what it is, but all of the rod bearings show wear on both sides of the shells. Not to the point of failure, but enough to tell me that the connecting rods at least stretched a bit temporarily (they still measure round, checked vertically and at 45*). The rod side of the bearings show chatter marks, inner crank side top shells are way too shiny for the miles on the engine. I haven't pulled the mains yet, but the thrust clearance is less then .006 and well in spec. The crank spins easily by hand, so there is probably no block problem especially since the oil pressure has never dropped from first start several years ago. Heck, it might even be a torque converter that's breaking up. All this means - I'm doing a ground up engine rebuild and may end up with a bunch more cubic inches over the stock 302 (say 331, or if I feel like living really dangerously, 347 biggrin).

I'll be taking better pictures with my DSLR camera shortly, but those are representative bearings, the shiny half from the top.



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sounds like a reasonable explanation for a rebuild,,, need more cubes,   one question tho,, why did you choose a 302 to begin with,,, I know they make awesome power if built right,, but  seems likw a 350 block would have been better to start with,,, unless of course you just happened to have that 302 laying around,,

I've always been a Big block person,, bigger the better,,, but that also means heavier also,,,



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I don't have the car, nor the money, and never will, but "There is no substitute for cubic inches"      ..................  http://www.enginelabs.com/news/1000ci-sarcartek-street-engine-getting-final-tuneup-in-denmark/

Now why didn't the link work?   Why does the insert link button no work?   Just me I guess.



-- Edited by poncho62 on Friday 24th of January 2014 06:16:46 AM

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Bad Rat wrote:

sounds like a reasonable explanation for a rebuild,,, need more cubes,   one question tho,, why did you choose a 302 to begin with,,, I know they make awesome power if built right,, but  seems likw a 350 block would have been better to start with,,, unless of course you just happened to have that 302 laying around,,

I've always been a Big block person,, bigger the better,,, but that also means heavier also,,,


 I went with a crate 302 because I was financially ...... incapacitated ..... at the time. Normally it would have been a 351W and that potential new stroker would be a 393 or 408 (or maybe even a 427). The roller 302 with the best iron GT40P heads was $1300 from Ford. The least expensive 351W Ford crate motor was ~$3900. Right now and the way the car is built, a 351W based engine wont fit without some firewall surgery. But that is a real option if a 302 stroker gets too expensive vs a non stroker 351W. Heck I even had a line on a complete, running '70s 460 with the desired D0VE-C heads for less then a hundred bucks



-- Edited by Dave W on Thursday 23rd of January 2014 09:58:51 PM

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thirdroc17 wrote:

I don't have the car, nor the money, and never will, but "There is no substitute for cubic inches"      ..................  http://www.enginelabs.com/news/1000ci-sarcartek-street-engine-getting-final-tuneup-in-denmark/

Now why didn't the link work?   Why does the insert link button no work?   Just me I guess.


 Dale, I read that in Engine Labs. Most of their stuff is only in my dreams (think Jon Kaase's engines they report on occasionally)



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Uh, yeah, that was a link to Engine Labs.  biggrin

 

I look at the stuff sometimes, watch the shows on TV, but I don't have Jay Leno's garage or income to dabble.   Single cylinder Kohler's break my budget!!!!!

 

1,000 street cubic inches, can you imagine it though????  Oh, that's right, that's all we CAN do.  Imagine it.  Well, unless you drive a Freightliner.......



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One box arrived late yesterday afternoon, the second, about an hour ago. OMG that thing is HEAVY. It's been moved (in pieces) to the basement shop to warm up after the overnight 3*F 'heat soak' in the garage. Once I can handle it without chance of frostbite, I'll assemble it then pluck the engine out of the car as the motor is within about 6-8 fasteners of coming out.



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