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Front Tires beginning to rub


A little over a year ago I put some new Cragers and Tires on my '62 Fairlane. When the shop did it we made a special point to make sure that, if we used the biggest tire, it wouldn't rub. So they fixed me up with a good set and I was out the door and on the road again. I had absolutely no problems until the first of this year when I backed out of the driveway, cut it real sharp and the front tires rubbed. I had done this many times since putting the new rubber on and they didn't rub.

I guess my question is could this be something as simple as a worn out shock or could I be dealing with spring and suspension failure also???

Hope Y'alls weekend was as you wanted it to be,
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Seems like the spring has settled, but that seems strange after 50+ years if they are the original springs...I am wondering if a part of the frame that holds the front suspension may have cracked or something?.....Do you remember hitting any hard bumps or something like that?

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yes but it was long before I had the tires and wheels done - - - maybe as much as a year - - not sure???

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There are so many things that could cause it that it would be like taking pot shots in the dark to try to diagnose it without being able to look it over really well. That front end has eight major points of flexion, six are supported by rubber bushings, and several adjustable points as well; just about anything could have gotten whacked or jarred loose and caused a shift.

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Well, first of all it is more "humid" out there than a scuba dive in Hot Springs Ark.
The tires were ALL low with only around 25 PSI per tire so I had a "Woo Hoo moment" and for a second I thought I'd 'gotta flocky' (no that's not a dirty word just one that us kids used, back before dirt, to mean Got Off Lucky). I put 36 PSI in each, crossed my fingers "ouch", said a prayer and backed out. [B][I]&%#&%@[/I][/B] she's still rubbing and it's at the front passenger side top outside fender well lip. Yes, I did have a passing thought about getting a 2x4 and a fulcrum but didn't so it's probably off to the shop I go at sometime if I can find the time.

I did also notice that the Cragars were showing some surface brown stuff and we don't put salt on the highway down here. So that's my afternoon project but I want to wait until it "warms" up some more.

A friend of mine also mentioned that it's very possible that the Barrio Bros could have put a torch to the front coils to get it lower. There was lowering blocks on the rear when I bought her so that's entirely possible.

Thanks for the input, Y'all,
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The torch idea sounds more likely,, but ya gotta remember too that its a FORD,, (JK)  I am presently replacing the coils on the Bonneville with some  3" lower than stock replacements,, springs will sag over time,  but regardless. you do have a problem,,

does the car feel like it drops a little when you turn , like maybe you are dropping into a hole or something.. and does it do it all the time .. not just on this particular turn,  ?     As for the surface rust,, its that wonderful Chinese ( OFF SHORE )chrome,, clean them up really good and put a liberal coating of chrome polish on them,, (WAX) the spray liquid stuff works good to start with,,, and gets down into the cracks really good, but a liberal coating of the paste stuff should work better,, for the finish coats  do both sides of the wheel,,,  

 

 something else to check on the springs deal,,, find a smooth level spot somewhere ,( Parking lot) and measure all corners of the car , from the ground up to the very top of the wheel arch , on the fender ( wheels should be pointing straight forward)  both fronts should be the same and both rears should be the same,   but be sure tire pressure is equal in all 4 tires,,  if they are different , then the springs are drooping or bushings shot,,



-- Edited by Bad Rat on Monday 27th of July 2015 10:36:15 AM

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Amigo, it drives great and I haven't noticed any drop - - - it will rub even if you are barely moving and turn sharply - - - I'm gonna check on some stock springs and then call my builder buddy.

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Mello Yello wrote:

Amigo, it drives great and I haven't noticed any drop - - - it will rub even if you are barely moving and turn sharply - - - I'm gonna check on some stock springs and then call my builder buddy.

thanks,
meller


The bonney does the same thing,, so I just don't turn as sharp,, I torched the springs, like a fool,, ( once heated they continue to sag) but it looked like a grandma car  so I ordered new 3" lower springs from OPG  ( origional parts group,) got the rears on ,, and will get the fronts done this week,  I have a rather steep driveway coming out of the garage, and it scrapes the bottom of the frame  pretty bad..( right at the tranny pan0 so they will continue to droop after they are heated,, heat springs? = dumbass kid trick ,



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to be honest, the "only" reason I am considering fixing it is that I ?think? I'm gonna get out of this hobby - - - only because my time is completely consumed and it's just going to waste

thanks Amigo,
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Probably sagging springs and probably from the Bario Bro's helpconfuse. Age, I've found causes sags ( my waist size increase is from my chest size decrease shocked.gifshocked.gif )

Go cheeeep, if you like, from here: http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=674780&cc=1335529&jnid=502&jpid=0  and  http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php

They are either 5/8 or 7/8 inch height adjusters



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thanks for the link, Dave,since I'm gonna sell her that just might be the way to 'git'er done' - - what's your thoughts on these>
www.jegs.com/i/Mr.+Gasket/720/1283/10002/-1

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Mello Yello wrote:

thanks for the link, Dave,since I'm gonna sell her that just might be the way to 'git'er done' - - what's your thoughts on these>
www.jegs.com/i/Mr.+Gasket/720/1283/10002/-1


 I've used them but they popped out after a very few miles. First one side sagged then a short time later, plop and I was back where I started -- saggy front.

Dam' - you sell that Fairlane and then we have to rebuild the next one next year --- and we just got through 'helpin' you' get this one right by helpin' you spending your money.



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I know - - - but this time it's for good ?I think? - - hind sight is 20/20 ya know - - - I wish I'd never sold the '55 or the '56 GMC but I did so here we are right back where "I" started - - - this is a nice little ride but I don't think I'll miss it ?maybe?

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I can't even imagine how many times I have said the very same thing Amigo,, I would get pissed and sell something that I had sunk bucket fulls of money into, and no sooner was it gone I was regretting it,, just like that Anglia, I cuss myself out for selling it every time I see one in a magazine  , but that's what impulse's do for you,, just like getting married,, " WHY IN THE F**K DID I DO THAT " but that's life I guess,, getting old really messes with you're better judgment, confuseconfuseconfuseconfuseconfuse

how much ya thinking you'll sell it for?  it'll be a cold day in hell before I sell that Bonneville,,, even tho I can't even afford to put gas in the thing

 



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Amigo, if I can get 10K for it then I'll be happy but ya gotta find the right buyer and it's not the kinda car that most want. Altho, it is really solid "now" and I've got the Barrio off of it. 2 bbl carb, electric shoke, rad shroud, fan, dual flowmaster clone exhaust, Cragars, Tires and most of that is less than a couple years old. I paid 7K and then did all that to it but those days are gone now, I'm afraid but I enjoyed them while I could. The "only" rust on it is the passenger's floor board where the heater core leaked but they ?fixed it? pretty decently. The trunk has been fully customized with OEM bumper jack, fire extinguisher, Ford tool box and new trunk mat - - -very nice rolled and pleated interior -  looks damned good too.

Em



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10 K sounds like a fair price,, and I don't think you will have any trouble finding a buyer,,  those little fords are rather scarce, and are great drivers, all old cars will have some problem that give ya fits,, and that scraping is just a example , simple fix,, but a fix none the less,,, ya do get tired of chasing the problems at some point,, that's hotroddin,, 

I have cut way back on doing anything in the shop,, mainly cause my son Billy has pretty much took it over for himself.. working on a friggin Volkswagen,,   



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UPDATE:

I decided to go with the screw in spacers.  Took it to a young mechanic and long time friend and after 10 minutes it was "show room level again".  He wouldn't even let me pay him anything but I'll even up with him later whether he likes it or not.

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