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Back to a dreaded project


I'm finally starting a room that I've been dreading for several years. When we moved in in 1993, this particular room took more time to prep and paint then all of the rest in the house - and I only did a 50-50 job at that (50 feet at 50 mph, that is)

It was a kids room and was a disaster - there were 12" square mirror panels covering (hiding?) one entire wall. It had been freshly painted but none of the scabs and scars patched plus the entry door hung crooked with a torn out but kind of repaired frame. I replace the door last spring along with a new frame - easy part of the job. I had kinda patched the scabby places --- but the azze PO had painted over wall paper paste. Painting over that paste creates a real mess and had I known how time consuming it would be, would have put up new drywall. Instead, I sanded and skim coated most of the walls - pretty big BR at 14'x15'. Unfortunately, some of that paste raised again even more but the room still looked pretty decent. Crawl ahead to Dec 2015 - and now it's time. The sliding closet doors were repaired - the bottoms where they had been cut to clear carpet, filled some holes and reversed them plus added some trim to them and they look like new except there are pulls inside and outconfuse. I've again scraped, sanded and 'mudded' the scabby parts, taken out the recessed ceiling fixture and filled that hole. A new fixture is wired and ready to install once the compound part is done. I also added a small crown molding around the ceiling, straightened the baseboard heat covers that the POs brats had stood on and will add some molding on top of them for appearance.

Tomorrow - ceiling paint, Wednesday/Thursday wall paint!!!!!!!!!! Then on to the kitchen to redo the counter tops before the tile guy shows on Jan 18th. Once all that 'crap' is done, then out come the camper (and maybe get my left eye repaired which has a cataract -- or something)



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Sorry to hear that, Dave, hope you get out from under it soon and without too much pain. Then yhou can go camping??

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Rrumbler wrote:

Sorry to hear that, Dave, hope you get out from under it soon and without too much pain. Then yhou can go camping??


 None of it's a big deal - it's that I was feeling sorry for myself for a while yesterday after standing in the middle of that room. We knew when we bought the house it was going to take a bunch of time to bring back/update. We just didn't think that every winter would be a new challenge. Then there are the mice which for the first time since the first year that have found a new way to make their mess. As far as the cataract or whatever, it's age 69 according to the 'net (Mayo Clinic)where folks start to have eye problems. I've been on borrowed time for a few years:-X09



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I suppose I should have put some of those funny little face things on there to let you know I was pokin' at ya'.  winkwinkbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin 

I've been in that same spot myself, even been known to put up some wallpaper to cover a mess that I knew I was going to have to clean up sooner or later; wound up stripping that one to the studs and starting over. T'was a good thing, too, 'cause I found some wiring and plumbing problems that could have made  real trouble if not fixed.

About the cataract; I got 'em, too, but my Doc says they're not causing me any difficulties, and may not.  Mrs. Rr had both eyes done a some years ago, and is happy with the outcome; hers were related to her RA and its meds and side effects.

I still think the camping is a good idea - wish it was Springtime all the time.



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Rrumbler wrote:

I suppose I should have put some of those funny little face things on there to let you know I was pokin' at ya'.  winkwinkbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin 

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I still think the camping is a good idea - wish it was Springtime all the time.


 I knew you were funnin'.

Pulling down and redoing drywall is not my way of having a good time. I've done more then my share here.

My wife had a cataract problem fixed about 4-5 years ago as well. Now it's my turn though I, after doing more 'net prowling am more inclined to think it's a macular hole. I'll know on Jan 11.



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Good Luck with that Dave - - - after 3 detached retina surgeries in 2014 I can relate

I had cataract surgery on both eyes and I think that's what caused the detachment in my right eye but what is a feller to do????

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Phew - a marathon project but finished putting the room back to rights today. I've painted half a house in less time then this room took but at least all of the rooms but one bath have some sort of crown molding. I forgot how much fun it is to cope ends of molding when you haven't done it for a couple years. Three of four copeswere OK and the 4th was perfect without added sanding. I'll take the dusty mess of drywall work - a little more mud, a few wipes with some sandpaper and it's fine. I still have the two window sashes but at 15 degrees today, it was no problem postponing to warm weather as I also have to pull and replace a sill on one window. The window manufacturer had a year of crappy sill wood and of course I got 7 of them with 3 more to fix. Now, a day of tool and shop cleanup and screw off time then on to the kitchen. The tile guy stopped and is supposed to be here on the 18th and I have to put down new plywood for the counter tops plus pull down the old tile back splash. All he will do is the counter top - I have the new backsplash

As far as pulling the camper out - about the 10th of April and off to Arkansas (???) to meet our San Antonio daughter and family at a state park for a long weekend



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Like I said, new kitchen counter top.

OMG - this became a BIG project. The tile back splash came down easy as I think I noted on another thread.

I have to go back in history when I originally gutted and redid the kitchen over 20 years ago. That was back in the era that if 3 nails worked fine, then 8 or ten had to be better. Well, apply that theory to cabinet screws. Everything finally came apart but the planned 2 day project - that is now in its seventh day. One good and one not so good eye doesn't speed things along either. Add all those cabinet screws then recall this is a 'tract house' where if anything was level, square, flat, plumb or straight, it was probably denied a cert of occupancy until it was put right.

Instead of using $50 a sheet cabinet plywood, I'm using standard $24/sheet 3/4" with a 3/8" backer for more strength. I'm using that for a couple reasons. First, they both warp but the regular 5 ply stuff I can pull into shape with some screws where the 6 ply cabinet ply - no way will that be pulled back into shape. I've tried that on a couple other projects - it wont move. Then it's going to be hidden with Hardi Backer cement board and tile and lastly, I AM frugal (cheep!!). The last fasteners will be driven shortly then I'll finish the drywall part of the job. Monday - the tiler does his thing and I'll try to not hang over his shoulder, giving him advice, but ........ I get my tiling 'thrills' by installing the new back splash as soon as my DW finds something she thinks matches the counter top.

The biggest problem surfaced yesterday after pulling the sink and emptying a few cupboards - but my wife took care of that by loading us in the car and out to eat.

OK - back to workconfuseconfuseconfuse



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Well - quick update. The tiler came yesterday with a helper. Not the best job, but it was too cold (18*F) for any wet tile saw so they had to do the several odd cuts with a 4" grinder and abrasive wheel. It will clean up OK but I wasn't planning on having to do that. Tomorrow they'll grout as much as possible with my having to finish it once I get the edge molding done. That molding would have been cut and installed today except I needed that needle in the eye, sooooooooooo. Then there is the back splash which under the cupboards wont be easy on my crank back



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Go easy on yourself, Dave, you've got the time, OK?

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Mello Yello wrote:

Go easy on yourself, Dave, you've got the time, OK?


 Yeah, what Em(E) said.

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Em & Em - yep, to a point you are absotively right but come the first week in April that big ol' camper comes out of any snow drift, if any this year, and we head South to at least Arkansas and meet up with daughter, SIL and kids.

The floor in the kitchen gets installed on Monday and then I will take another day or so off and contemplate the philosophy of the universe (I also get bored to tears if I'm not doing a projectbiggrin)



-- Edited by Dave W on Wednesday 20th of January 2016 07:04:37 AM

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Well, kitchen floor was installed today - beautiful job that took 3 guys 7 hours to finish and I still have to put the trim back up. Unfortunately, that new floor doesn't match the $$ tile on the counter tops in color or pattern. Not my part of the kitchen project as I am kinda (very?) color blind/ignorant. It now looks like I get the 'privilege' of pulling those counters apart and installing some different tile but in a size I can handle such as 12x12 instead of the 12x24 which the pro only did a so-so job installing. The worst part - pulling the sink and refitting it as there is only about a 3/8" rim so there is no room for error.

Dam', but I really love all my extra hours for this retirement fun censored.giffrustrated.gif



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As said, pulled the tile off the counter tops - never broke a single one as the 'tiler' never back buttered except at the sink hole. As I dug further, it got worse. He used cement board while I had specified Hardi Board. They both work but the Hardi Board goes down better and is smoother. The screws holes should be predrilled so there isn't a raised mound when the screw penetrates and a few dozen uneven places. There were no taped joints nor any thinset between the joints which should also cover the tape. Next, he didn't put any membrane between the cement board and the plywood underlayment. This isn't so much for water penetration as it is for minor movement from weather. Except that the grout might crack, the old tile was tough being porcelain. The jury is still out on the replacement stuff as it's ceramic and a softer tile.

The new tile is pretty though and is 13" square. To keep from having to cut a lot, I extended the counter by about 11/16.

I suspect that I'll finish this job eventually probably with Christmas being the approximate time frame (though not sure what year) since one eye is blurry and the other gets a cataract out next week followed by the blurry one in a few weeksconfuseconfuse



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hang in there Dave - at least you haven't lost your SOH - - - ??YET?? that is

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Mello Yello wrote:

hang in there Dave - at least you haven't lost your SOH - - - ??YET?? that is


That's not what my DW says!!! The latest is "You are a grumpy old fa---errrr fellow".

I at least have the new cement board down, just finished, and expect to start with setting the tile tomorrow. It has to be pretty well along by next Wednesday or I'll be stalled for a few days while that eye surgery heals enough. If not, washing dishes in the basement set tub will continue. This getting old crap sure has its drawbacks when a lot of your social life consists of sitting in a doctor's waiting room and talking to complete strangersconfuseconfuse



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Still puttering around in the kitchen. Got the counter tile down just fine, grouted it in and what it looked like wet, which was a perfect match, sure wasn't the color when it dried, regardless of what the package color said. I dug that out - not exactly a fun project - over the weekend and will put a different brand in shortly. I've been making up new oak edge trim and stained it this morning - 18 pieces of varying lengths and 15, 25, 30 and 45 degree corner angles depending on where it goes. I never knew that oak strips cut from the same 1"x6" board could stain up with so many different shades plus 3-4 salvaged from some of the original trim - and all of it red oak. The back splash will follow in a few days when my wife (had a nasty bug which cancelled a 2 week camper trip) can pick out what she wants - I'm only labor, paid in food and a warm bed, and don't do decorating or colors.



-- Edited by Dave W on Wednesday 20th of April 2016 11:39:59 AM

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Sounds like you got it going your way (finally LOL) - - the only home projects that I do these days are maintenance - - - the painting that needs doing will just have to "need doing" - - - my biggie is diverting the rain water some place other than under the house - - - I'm even considering having "our" Sons come over in a week or so and tear out the back deck - - - only reason is so I can control the rain water even better - - - -



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Red oak, and almost any wood with a relatively open grain, stains oddly in my experience. We had a bullnose trim on our counters in SoCal that I milled up out of 1 x 2 red oak, and it stained up varied from one end to the other. I didn't think it looked bad at all, just nicely natural, but some visitors did mention it. Our high end fir front door got several coats of sanding sealer before staining, and even then, the pith wood stained darker than the denser parts; again, not objectionable to me, actually gave the door some character.

I used to say - and I usually had the good sense to duck when I said it in earshot of the Missus - "She's the chief cook and bottle washer, and I'm the resident ditch digger, fix-it guy, and gofer."

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Just to bring a long quiet thread back for a day or several. That kitchen project - I finally finished it the week before Christmas and have to say that it turned out very nicely. The backsplash was a b i t c h of the first order as it is small, irregular length pieces of ceramic on a 12" square backing and with brushed aluminum interspersed which made it difficult to cut, then, eventually to grout. Many little grout lines and all of it under cabinets and all of it outlined at the top and sided with either stained oak or 'pencil' tiles.

Oh well, back to my current project, painting the up and downstairs hall and stair well. And that is proving a major project too instead of a 2-3 day job as we wall papered when we moved in so as to hide the previous owners drywall damage which now took days to fix. Then down with a cold/flu for about ten days ...............



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